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    Quote Originally Posted by Onur View Post
    Are we living in the same world with you? Who finance whom? Wtf you talking about?

    Turkey always gives more than she takes. We opened up our 80 million market to the European companies with the EU customs union since 1995. We buy over 150-160 billions worth of goods from these companies, more than 30 billion from your Germany alone.

    You better get real and stop imagining things from your mind.
    LOL

    1. Buying stuff is not giving, but a deal which apparently both sides profit from. What´s next? The Africans are building Germany because they buy used German cars?

    2. http://www.europa-digital.de/laender/tuerkei.shtml writes this:
    Die Türkei profitiert seit 2004 von den Geldern der Heranführungshilfe. Im Zeitraum von 2004 bis 2006 hat sie eine finanzielle Unterstützung von insgesamt 1,05 Milliarden Euro von der Europäischen Union erhalten. Im Jahr 2009 beträgt die veranschlagte Gesamtsumme 566,4 Millionen Euro.
    translation: From 2004 on Turkey has been benefitting from "Heranführungshilfe" (aid to reach European standarts). Between 2004 and 2006 Turkey received 1,05 bilion Euro financial support form the European Union. In 2009 the estimated sum will be 566, Million Euro.

    This obviously is mainly German money. And before that Germany has already paid many millions in the last 50 years. The German development aid for Turkey will stop soon, although 100 milion more will be paid over the next months (http://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/a...ungshilfe.html).


    True economical giants. Give us our money back and we´ll see where you are at... By the way, the money with which you self-sacrifingly buy goods for your own use is far less than what you receive for free as gift.

    Does it get more funny?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MfA_ View Post
    There is so much Chinks and South Koreans in Australia.. My uncle married with one a few years ago there.. No surprise their government is on the issue..
    I would add Indians/Subcontinentals to that aswell.

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    Asia is on the rise. Doubtless
    Prodigies appear in the oddest of places


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    Quote Originally Posted by ficuscarica View Post
    translation: From 2004 on Turkey has been benefitting from "Heranführungshilfe" (aid to reach European standarts). Between 2004 and 2006 Turkey received 1,05 bilion Euro financial support form the European Union. In 2009 the estimated sum will be 566, Million Euro.

    This obviously is mainly German money. And before that Germany has already paid many millions in the last 50 years. The German development aid for Turkey will stop soon, although 100 milion more will be paid over the next months (http://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/a...ungshilfe.html).


    True economical giants. Give us our money back and we´ll see where you are at...
    Ficus, you are being comical AGAIN

    Wtf is that 1,05 billion euros in 3 years? This is about same as Turkey`s annual toilet paper consumption. And you are yelling at me for this and present it as "German aid for Turkey`s development"??? lol

    Do you think Turkey is some kind of city state like Monaco or Malta, so we can "develop" with 1,05 billion? haha

    If you are so concerned about this amount of money, then what you think about 100s of billions you donated to Greeks?

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    australians must make more children especially children not affected by incest, if asians made childrens like crazy in the past so what?? Does it mean we must give up and learn their languages?? We must do the same?? Look at russia.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdGpIw_wTNo

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEYUvMyBFJ0


    How pathetic australians are learning chinese?? Do you even know that chinese are the least engllish speaking nation even lower than russia?? Why ?? Because they want that you should learn their language, if you want to be more like asian you will realize you have to be much more nationalistic and race centric like anything is in white countries today.

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    I'm not learning asian! fuck that... If they do completely take over (even more than they have already) i'll move to Europe..

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    Hmm.. I fear that it's pretty much inevitable that Australia and New Zealand will focus more on Asia. It would be an economic reorientation but I think that the Australians should not feel alarmed: they have been there before when they went from being in the British sphere to being in the American sphere.

    Of course, Hindi and Chinese would probably become part of the normal curriculum (much as English is on the other side). But it doesn't mean they should let in all manners of Asians, no sir, it's not even necessary. We don't let in heaps of Germans either and we are focussed on our trade with Germany.



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    I've never understood this logic.

    1. Treating Asia as one entity is naive.

    2. Why concentrate on trade with any one continent? That's limiting.

    3. Australia has perfectly good relations with Asian countries right now. Outstanding in the case of East Asia with China and Japan being great friends of Australia.

    4. Showing their own form of racism the proponents of this ideology (Keating etc) mean China by "Asia," they ignore Central and Western Asia entirely.
    Spoiler!

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    Asia is not a real word, is more like a generalization. Just check this list and tell me if these people would ever want to be considered as one:

    Russia-Japan
    Russia-China
    Japan-China
    N.Korea-S.Korea
    S.Korea-Japan
    N.Korea-Japan
    Taiwan-China
    Vietnam-China
    Vietnam-Cambodia
    Philippines-Japan
    Tajikistan-Uzbekistan
    Iran-Iraq
    S.Arabia-Iraq
    Iraq-Kuwait
    Israel-Palestine
    Israel-Lebanon
    Lebanon-Syria
    Israel-Jordan
    Israel-Iran
    Israel-Iraq
    S.Arabia-Israel
    Turkey-Cyprus
    Armenia-Azerbaijan
    Azerbaijan-Iran
    Pakistan-India
    Pakistan-Bangladesh
    India-China
    Russia-Mongolia
    Singapore-Indonesia
    Indonesia-T.Leste
    Indonesia-P.N.Guinea
    Turkey-Armenia
    Syria-Turkey

    etc.

    Asians hate each others more than everyone else. There's no continent on Earth with so much hate and divisions. They don't collaborate, they don't respect each others, they still live with territorial enlargement dreams.

    Mostly, they're different on every aspect. Europe, Oceania and the Americas are mostly unified by their Indo-European languages. Europe, Oceania and N.America are racially unified. Europe has economical unions and so on. But Asia, Asia is DIFFERENT, some of them are Yellows, some of them are Whites, some are Browns, some are mixed like SE-Asia and so on. There's no logical way that you can gather them together. Europe, Oceania and the Americas are mostly Christian, Asia is extremely mixed theologically. Europe, Oceania and the Americas are mostly democratic countries, Asia is full of differences, you have the Islamic SW-Asia, you have the communist E-Asia, you have the nationalistic S.Korea, you have Japan, the last standing empire on Earth etc. But mostly, Asia is an orphan, not only the Asians are leaving their own lands and moving in Europe, Australia and N.America, but a half continent is totally careless of being geographically Asian. Russians, Armenians, Azerbaijanis, Georgians(Kartvelians), Turks, Cypriots, Israelis etc. don't give a damn about Asia. Saying "lets stay near Asia" is like saying "lets stay near nothing", Asia exists only in geography classes.

    Now lets return to Gillard. She's not really smart and I feel sorry for that. She's one of the few non religious leaders in the World and I really hoped she could have done more, but maybe she doesn't have the right experience.

    No Australian needs to learn dying languages of dying countries, like the artificial Hindi-Urdu that exists only on textbooks, just like India that still is full of separatists. Same for the "Chinese language" that doesn't make any damn sense, Mandarin is spoken only in Beijing and in the areas around it. NW-China's Hans doesn't understand it, nor the Hans of S-China understands it. The pupils in Taiwan learn Mandarin at school, because no one speaks it at home. By the other side English is taught allover the planet, China and India included and this people can speak it far better than the Aussies can speak Hindi or Mandarin.

    Just elect another PM Aussies! Keep going with the non religious ones, but elect some who are more experienced that Gillard.
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    Well I am taking courses in Mandarin, it's a bitch of a language to overcome TBH.

    Now I wish I had learned it in my youth instead of German and French.

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