Facial reconstruction of Jomon (ancestors of Ainu)

[Kalimtari]

No, some really do look pseudo-Caucasoid. For example, I posted an Ainu once, and most people guessed he was European.

I mean, what if their look is older than ours? Just thinking

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Yep, it's only the last 1000-2000 years that the world has had a lot of what we call asian looking people or dark people either, for that matter. Unfortunately people can't get out of the idea that things don't stay the same over time, especially now that travel and mixing is so much more common.

[Smeagol]

I mean, what if their look is older than ours? Just thinking

I don't think so.

The first known Mongoloids appear in early Neolithic sites in China, such as Baoji and Huaxian around 7,100BP.
http://dienekes.blogspot.fi/2005/08/...or-racial.html

[Kalimtari]

I don't think so.

The first known Mongoloids appear in early Neolithic sites in China, such as Baoji and Huaxian around 7,100BP.
http://dienekes.blogspot.fi/2005/08/...or-racial.html

but these guys are way older than "mongoloids". They're probably descendants of Proto australoids.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Australoid


Veddas:









http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vedda_people

[ButlerKing]

Yep, it's only the last 1000-2000 years that the world has had a lot of what we call asian looking people or dark people either, for that matter. Unfortunately people can't get out of the idea that things don't stay the same over time, especially now that travel and mixing is so much more common.

East Asian Mongoloid people already appeared around 45,000 years ago.

[ButlerKing]

I don't think so.

The first known Mongoloids appear in early Neolithic sites in China, such as Baoji and Huaxian around 7,100BP.
http://dienekes.blogspot.fi/2005/08/...or-racial.html

I'm not sure if dienekes is accurate on the date

" The human fossil remains of the Ordos Man from Salawusu site dated between 50,000 and 35,000 BCE show strong Mongoloid features, specifically on the fore-tooth and occipital bone.[4] "

[Smeagol]

but these guys are way older than "mongoloids". They're probably descendants of Proto australoids.

No, the Ainu are proto-Mongoloids.

[Smeagol]

I'm not sure if dienekes is accurate on the date

" The human fossil remains of the Ordos Man from Salawusu site dated between 50,000 and 35,000 BCE show strong Mongoloid features, specifically on the fore-tooth and occipital bone.[4] "

Okay, but where did the Jomon people come from?

[Kalimtari]

No, the Ainu are proto-Mongoloids.

some scholars believe that these Proto Australoids are the last common ancestors of Europeans and Asian

[aherne]

The type of these people is CroMagnid. They could all fit throughout Mesolithic Europe and are as different from Mongoloids as night and day... As for them being "genetically Mongoloid", argument is ludicrous since there is no such thing as "genetic Mongoloid".

In all fairness, they should be considered a separate race (akin Cushites)...