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    Default Immigration discrimination based on country of origin/race is NOT immoral

    If you call for a sound immigration policy that selects from where people can immigrate, the left (and most of the cuck right) will call it immoral because it discriminates on race.
    I'll tell you why it's not.

    1.) Nobody has the "right" to immigrate into any country. There is simply no such thing as that right. So you are not denying anyone anything, if you exclude him based on country of origin/race or any other reason. Each country has the right to chose who immigrates there based on ANY criteria they wish.

    2.) It does not go against the principle of judging people based on their content of character. The government simply does not have the means to judge every applicant personally and to inquire about his content of character, especially if people have a strong incentive to present themselves as better so that they can immigrate. So going based on average differences is logical.

    3.) Country of origin/race discrimination on immigration is moral, because there are significant statistical difference between populations in things that matter for the host country, such as average IQ, propensity to criminality, culture, identity, politics etc. Only one of those attributes is sufficient to justify discrimination. If you are for example a Republican see Republicans starting to lose election because of demographic changes, this is perfectly enough for you to oppose immigration of Hispanics who are more likely to vote for the left. So only on the political grounds alone it is justify to discriminate based on race. Not to mention all the other things combined. Another thing is identity. If you are against identity politics, bringing people of different races will cause there to be more identity politics as opposed to having a monoracial society. So if you are simply against identity politics, it's logical for you to oppose immigration of people from different races/identities.

    I believe that the reason the mainstream thinks that discrimination in immigration is immoral, is because they think racial discrimination is such an evil that it is immoral in every context. People have been emotionally conditioned about the evils of historical racial discriminating in United States so any racial discrimination automatically becomes evil in their minds, even tough the logic doesn't follow it.

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    It's all about consumerism and finance. Corporates run the show, more consumers the happier shareholders are - Europe has really dug a hole and sold out its soul.

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    Its not immigrants that are driving force behind immigration. Its your own governments.

    Life in the west and north is becoming too good. Most people can afford higher education and pursue prestigious careers, and often they don't have any or enough children. The natural consequence of this is there is a big hole left in the lower class workforce and there is nobody left to be a construction worker and a street cleaner. The people responsible for overseeing these things see this phenomenon, and this is why there is such a coordinated effort for "multiculturalism" and immigration.

    The new immigrants are stupid and uneducated and they will fill the lower class workforce, and adding to that they are very fertile and have a lot of children which ensures demographic stability. People in big gov and big corp don't care one bit that some fellow white people are going to go extinct, they only care of securing their future workforce.

    The irony in all this is the economic success of the west so many members here brag about will be the thing that destroys it.

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    I agree with both replies, however a big part of changing this politically is demonstrating that policies aimed at restricting immigration are not immoral. If you convince people that, the political change is more likely. As long as most society believes changing immigration policy is immoral things will not change. People in the West tremendously care what is supposedly moral and what is not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supercomputer View Post
    I agree with both replies, however a big part of changing this politically is demonstrating that policies aimed at restricting immigration are not immoral. If you convince people that, the political change is more likely. As long as most society believes changing immigration policy is immoral things will not change. People in the West tremendously care what is supposedly moral and what is not.
    Alright tell dumb white protestant bitches start pumping out more babies because it is moral because it is in the bible :

    "be fruitful and multiply" so says the bible

    Problem solved ? or did they replace protestantism with liberalism as a secular religion ?

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    Why even go to race?
    Simply allow only immigrants who share similar culture and come from countries with a certain level of development.

    It's nothing immoral about enforcing this - it ensures that only immigrants able to assimilate are allowed in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ixulescu View Post
    Why even go to race?
    Simply allow only immigrants who share similar culture and come from countries with a certain level of development.

    It's nothing immoral about enforcing this - it only ensures that only immigrants able to assimilate are allowed in.
    Because protestants are from NorthWest Europe mostly ? The P in WASP is a capital PROTESTANT. What do you mean by similar culture ? I mean , yeah, there black protestants too etc... but whatever

    The Immigration Act of 1924, or Johnson–Reed Act, including the Asian Exclusion Act and National Origins Act (Pub.L. 68–139, 43 Stat. 153, enacted May 26, 1924), was a United States federal law that prevented immigration from Asia, set quotas on the number of immigrants from the Eastern Hemisphere, and provided funding and an enforcement mechanism to carry out the longstanding ban on other immigrants.

    The 1924 act supplanted earlier acts to effectively ban all immigration from Asia[1][2] and set a total immigration quota of 165,000 for countries outside the Western Hemisphere, an 80% reduction from the average before World War I.[1] Quotas for specific countries were based on 2% of the US population from that country recorded in the 1890 census.[2] As a result, populations poorly represented in 1890 were prevented from immigrating in proportionate numbers—especially affecting Italians, Greeks and Eastern European Jews, as well as Poles and other Slavs.[1][3][4] According to the US Department of State's Office of the Historian, the purpose of the act was "to preserve the ideal of U.S. homogeneity."[2] Congressional opposition was minimal.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1924

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesBond007 View Post
    Because protestants are from NorthWest Europe mostly ? The P in WASP is a capital PROTESTANT. What do you mean by similar culture ? I mean , yeah, there black protestants too etc... but whatever

    The Immigration Act of 1924, or Johnson–Reed Act, including the Asian Exclusion Act and National Origins Act (Pub.L. 68–139, 43 Stat. 153, enacted May 26, 1924), was a United States federal law that prevented immigration from Asia, set quotas on the number of immigrants from the Eastern Hemisphere, and provided funding and an enforcement mechanism to carry out the longstanding ban on other immigrants.

    The 1924 act supplanted earlier acts to effectively ban all immigration from Asia[1][2] and set a total immigration quota of 165,000 for countries outside the Western Hemisphere, an 80% reduction from the average before World War I.[1] Quotas for specific countries were based on 2% of the US population from that country recorded in the 1890 census.[2] As a result, populations poorly represented in 1890 were prevented from immigrating in proportionate numbers—especially affecting Italians, Greeks and Eastern European Jews, as well as Poles and other Slavs.[1][3][4] According to the US Department of State's Office of the Historian, the purpose of the act was "to preserve the ideal of U.S. homogeneity."[2] Congressional opposition was minimal.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1924

    Europeans have been Christian for almost 2000 years, not 200 years. Besides, religion is only one aspect of culture - none of the African countries have working democracies, or cultural influence in Europe, etc.

    Also, Africans would not fit the immigration criteria because of the threshold put on the level of development. Europe and the US are not morally bound to accept every economic migrant of this world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ixulescu View Post
    Dude, Europeans have been Christian for almost 2000 years, not 200 years. Besides, religion is only one aspect of culture - none of the African countries have working democracies, or cultural influence in Europe, etc.

    Also, Africans would not fit the immigration criteria because of the threshold put on the level of development.
    I'm afraid since humans are such a pathetic lot I'm going to have draw the line in the sand via religion unfortunately. I would accept only immigrants that are Protestant.
    Last edited by JamesBond007; 02-13-2021 at 01:22 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesBond007 View Post
    I'm afraid since humans are such pathetic lot I'm going to have draw the line in the sand via religion unfortunately. I would accept only immigrants that are Protestant.
    What about atheists/agnostics?

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