Are Turks White?

[Übermensch]

Fair enough. Cypriots look more exotic to Turks and are basically Palestinian speaking Greeks lol.

I think they are barely the same, but without any turanoid admixture, turanid admixture makes turks stick out in every south euro country.
I have been in Turkey: Beautiful country,Beautiful culture,Beautiful people ecc but if you ask me if they are ''white'' then definitly no.

[kabeiros]

Well, to me this question is still hard to answer. Anatolia had connection with tribes from Balkans and Europe( GREEKS, Thracians, Galatians, Phrygians etc.) so at real, this region has to do with Europe more than Armenia or Iran does.

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[Anatolian Eagle]

Depends on what you define as white. Racially, Turks carry Anatolian and Turanid elements with influence from neighbouring regions (Caucasus, Balkans and Middle East), so in this regard I assume Turks can be considered as white. If you associate it with people of European descent (similiar to 'White Africans' or 'White Americans', which is also tied to common cultural heritage), Turks cannot be considered as white. If you associate the term with political manner, such as 'Aryanism', although carrying Anatolian elements Turks still cannot be considered as 'white'.

The term "white" itself is obviously tricky anyway, I don't think it should make much sense to anyone. Those "white" threads as Absinthe said are getting rather repetitive and boring. I personally regard any invidual who has white skintone with certain features as white, but still.

[StonyArabia]

It would be interesting if the Turkic tribes never adopted a Persianate culture and civilization which came via Islam, but stayed Christian and took the religion of their Anatolian subjects, how Turks would have been viewed and most likely they would have been considered to be White. But since they did not become part of Christendom or the Occident.

[alanr]

True the Mongol invasion devastated the Middle East. Baghdad library was destroyed, and the books were put in the rivers, it was said they became black due to the ink. So many things were lost. However the Middle East will return to it's glory soon.

I think that term White is just cultural and phenotypes don't really play much. For example you have to be part of the Occidental civilization to be White.

I'm not to sure about that. Most countries in the middle east have been made to fail and to be manipulated. Pinning together different people that historically didn't get along allows for that to happen. Also all the war in the middle east has stopped the development of the education significantly add to that the easy oil based economy which has led to an increased lazy life style and you get the picture.

I hope that we regain our glory as after all we are the cradle of civilizations and have influenced the whole world through religion and advancing in a positive manner.

[Su]

This is how I think about this subject:

Depends on what you define as white. Racially, Turks carry Anatolian and Turanid elements with influence from neighbouring regions (Caucasus, Balkans and Middle East), so in this regard I assume Turks can be considered as white. If you associate it with people of European descent (similiar to 'White Africans' or 'White Americans'), Turks cannot be considered as white. If you associate the term with political manner, such as 'Aryanism', although carrying Anatolian elements Turks still cannot be considered as 'white'.

The term "white" itself is obviously tricky anyway, I don't think it should make much sense to anyone. Those "white" threads as Absinthe said are getting rather repetitive and boring. I personally regard any invidual who has white skintone with certain features as white, but still.

[Su]

I also voted for these 2 options:

No they are mxed race, due to being of partial Central Asian origins

Depends on how you define White.

[StonyArabia]

I'm not to sure about that. Most countries in the middle east have been made to fail and to be manipulated.

That's true and this continue to be the case. However things are slowly improving.

Pinning together different people that historically didn't get along allows for that to happen.

Yes that was thanks to Sykes-Picot agreement, but in a way it has come to hunt them.

Also all the war in the middle east has stopped the development of the education significantly add to that the easy oil based economy which has led to an increased lazy life style and you get the picture.

True, but the wars have caused a brain drain to the Middle East, the brightest minds often migrate to other places. However some of the oil rich nations are starting to develop other industries.

I hope that we regain our glory as after all we are the cradle of civilizations and have influenced the whole world through religion and advancing in a positive manner.

It will, things look to be improving slowly and surely.

[alanr]

That's true and this continue to be the case. However things are slowly improving.

We can only hope. Sadly when a dictator is removed there is always thousands ready to replace him/her.

True, but the wars have caused a brain drain to the Middle East, the brightest minds often migrate to other places. However some of the oil rich nations are starting to develop other industries.

Even today as soon as a war starts in the Middle East they target intellectuals. Look at Syria.

It will, things look to be improving slowly and surely.

We can only hope.

[Anatolian Eagle]

Turks are overwhelmingly Caucasoid, and hence 'white'. It also depends on your definition of white - what does it mean in the first place? The majority of Turks would be considered white in America, I think.

Well, speaking about Turkish Americans, to give an example Dr. Mehmet Öz as an individual always looked somewhat 'White American' to me and he has Anatolian roots from Konya.



Dunno if that's just me, but I doubt he looks foreign to there.