View Poll Results: Are grades given or earned?

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    4 19.05%
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    9 42.86%
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    At this point, where no University degrees play any role on whether someone will thrive or not, I don't see the importance. It depends on the university's standards, and specifically those of the teacher.

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    Definitely, a little from column 'A' and a little from column 'B'.

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    It depends on the institution you are attending.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kale View Post
    I would say some are given, but "earned" is kind of sugar coating it a bit. The "earned" portion is essentially bending over and receiving whatever may enter.
    I agree with the above quote.

    If you identify yourself with the requirements of educational institution and you view the requirements as fair and universal, you see grades as earned. If you see the requirements of educational institution as twisted and evil on the grand scale or plain stupid on more mundane level, then you see grades as given, because requirements don't depend on you, but grades do.

    From the point of view of institution, students earn grades, from the point of view of students, they get grades, unless students identify with institution by negation of their own will or should I say Intelligence. Often there isn't much to negate anyway.

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    The best institutions are very meritocratic. And the others do not matter anyway, if you want to have a real career. Grades do get earned, and you have to work hard for them. And they do matter definitely, since many entry-level positions in the best companies have strict grade cut-off (i.e. you're not getting into Goldman or BCG if you have a 3.0/4.0 GPA, even if it's from Yale).

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    Anyone who studied under me EARNED his/her grade. I tested for comprehension rather than merely retention. I went to great lengths to avoid knowing whose exam I was grading so as to be as unbiased as possible.
    "This is not my time; this is not my world; these are not my people." - Martin H. Francis

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    In courses where there are cut and dried right or wrong answers , or specific skills to be learned , grades indicate how many correct answers
    were remembered on tests .
    But there are other courses where there are no cut and dried right or wrong answers, and grading by schoolteachers or college professors
    is pretty much arbitrary . For example , in classes studying literature , whether English or whatever in school , are very arbitrary , and
    based pretty much on blind chance , not knowledge or ability .
    Grades do not necessarily show how intelligent, talented , knowledgable , and imaginative a student is . Being able to memorize and
    regurgitate correct answers on a test does not necessarily mean that a student is more intelligent or talented than those who are less good
    at memoriztion are .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Svipdag View Post
    Anyone who studied under me EARNED his/her grade. I tested for comprehension rather than merely retention. I went to great lengths to avoid knowing whose exam I was grading so as to be as unbiased as possible.
    I wish all teachers of any kind were like you.

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