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    What an odd headline to have to write.

    Ahmednur Ali's family fled the chaos and violence of their West African homeland Somalia in the 1990s, eventually making their way to Minnesota like thousands of their compatriots.

    While many of the estimated 32,000 Somalis who settled in the state have struggled to adapt, Ali flourished, blazing a path to Minneapolis' Augsburg College on a soccer scholarship by age 20. He studied political science and aspired to a political career modeled on President Barack Obama's.

    He was shot and killed last September outside a busy community center where he worked part-time as a youth counselor, and prosecutors said the 16-year-old accused of killing him was part of a gang.

    Ali was one of seven Minneapolis-area Somali men killed over a 10-month period, and authorities believe all were killed by fellow Somalis. Police say it's too simple to tie all the killings to Somali gangs, which have lured hundreds of young community members to their ranks in recent years.

    Those in the insular community willing to speak out, however, disagree.

    "It was all gang activity, totally, 100 percent," said Shukri Adan, a former Somali community organizer who estimated in a 2007 report for the city that between 400 and 500 young Somalis were active in gangs. "The police don't want to say that but everybody else knows that."

    Despite anger and despair over the killings in Minnesota's Somali community - the nation's largest - police and prosecutors have struggled to catch and try the killers. Few witnesses have stepped forward because of a fear of reprisal and deep-rooted distrust of authority. More than half of Minnesota's Somalis are living in poverty, according to state statistics, and many complain that authorities are biased against Somalis because of their Islamic faith.

    Last month, prosecutors dropped the murder charge against the teenage boy in Ali's case after one witness backed out and another apparently fled the state.

    Gangs like the Somali Hot Boyz, the Somali Mafia and Madhibaan with Attitude have grown more active in recent years, said Jeanine Brudenell, the Minneapolis Police Department's Somali liaison officer.

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    Seriously. Whose idea was it to take a bunch of Muslim savages from Africa and put them in Minnesota? That's where a bunch of Hmong ended up, too.

    Why not Detroit, since it looks a lot more like Mogadishu.

    America is just HAD to interfere in Vietnam and Somalia...now we get all their people moving here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dresden View Post
    Seriously. Whose idea was it to take a bunch of Muslim savages from Africa and put them in Minnesota? That's where a bunch of Hmong ended up, too.

    Why not Detroit, since it looks a lot more like Mogadishu.

    America is just HAD to interfere in Vietnam and Somalia...now we get all their people moving here.
    Not only is America getting them... but Europe is too. Fortunately, I haven't seen any Somalis yet in Alabama but I wouldn't be surprised to see them soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfichka View Post
    Not only is America getting them... but Europe is too. Fortunately, I haven't seen any Somalis yet in Alabama but I wouldn't be surprised to see them soon.

    Even in the West Country city of Bristol you have them, but this lot have taken over the drugs trade there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfichka View Post
    Not only is America getting them... but Europe is too. Fortunately, I haven't seen any Somalis yet in Alabama but I wouldn't be surprised to see them soon.
    I see Somalis everyday. I'm not sure of the official number, but there must be close to 10,000 or so, and they all live in the capital region, it seems. Thank God I'm moving from this neighbourhood.

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    I agree. I think it was someone's deliberate idea to plop 32,000 Somalis in Minnesota. "Hey, what's that? We have a state with a bunch of blond, Scandinavian people? They couldn't possibly have any rich culture of their own. Here, lets just dump a pile of Somali militia men in there to mix things up a bit!"

    I don't understand why just because we get involved in another country's affairs, we all of a sudden have the responsibility to ship thousands of those people over here.

    Take the example of Algerian immigrants in France:

    OK, so the Algerian government booted out the Pieds Noires (French settlers in Algeria), and now they expect the French to welcome Algerians to settle in France? That doesn't sound like good hospitality to me. The sad part is the French welcomed them over.

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    Ahmednur Ali's family fled the chaos and violence of their West African homeland Somalia in the 1990s, eventually making their way to Minnesota like thousands of their compatriots.
    That writer needs to learn some geography.

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    Part of the reason for sending them to places like Minneapolis is to increase diversity in places that are too White.

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    Damn, Somalis are everywhere now. Even I have seen them in Tallinn, luckily(or not) they were tourists from Helsinki.

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    More black savages to worry about. As if the U.S. didn't have enough of those already..

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