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    - Ancient Mitochondrial DNA Unravels Complex
    Population History in North East Europe

    - Mitochondrial Genome Sequencing in Mesolithic
    North East Europe Unearths a New Sub-clade Within the Broadly
    Distributed Human Haplogroup C1

    - The Mitochondrial Gene Pool of Scythians of the
    Rostov Area, Russia: A Melting Pot of Eurasian Influences

    - Local Mitochondrial Continuity In central Sardinia:
    Ancient DNA Evidence From The Bronze Age


    The distribution of human genetic variability is the result of thousand years of
    human evolutionary and population history. Geographical variation in the non-
    recombining maternally inherited mitochondrial DNA has been studied in a wide array
    of modern populations in order to reconstruct the migrations that have participated in
    the spread of our ancestors on the planet. However, population genetic processes (e.g.,
    replacement, genetic drift) can significantly bias the reconstruction and timing of past
    migratory and demographic events inferred from the analysis of modern-day marker
    distributions. This can lead to erroneous interpretations of ancient human population
    history, a problem that potentially could be circumvented by the direct assessment of
    genetic diversity in ancient humans. Despite important methodological problems
    associated with contamination and post-mortem degradation of ancient DNA,
    mitochondrial data have been previously obtained for a few spatially and temporally
    diverse European populations. Mitochondrial data revealed additional levels of
    complexity in the population history of Europeans that had remained unknown from
    the study of modern populations. This justifies the relevance of broadening the
    sampling of ancient mitochondrial DNA in both time and space.
    This study aims at filling gaps in the knowledge of the genetic history of
    eastern Europeans and of European genetic outliers, the Saami and the Sardinians.
    This study presents a significant extension to the knowledge of past human
    mitochondrial diversity. Ancient remains temporally-sampled from three groups of
    European populations have been examined: north east Europeans (200 – 8,000 years
    before present; N = 76), Iron Age Scythians of the Rostov area, Russia (2,300 – 2,600
    years before present; N = 16), Bronze Age individuals of central Sardinia, Italy (3,200
    – 3,400 years before present; N = 16). The genetic characterisation of these
    populations principally relied on sequencing of the mitochondrial control region and
    typing of single nucleotide polymorphisms in the coding region.
    Changes in mitochondrial DNA structure were tracked through time by
    comparing ancient and modern populations of Eurasia. Analysis of haplogroup data
    included principal component analysis, multidimensional scaling, fixation index
    computation and genetic distance mapping. Haplotypic data were compared by
    haplotype sharing analysis, phylogenetic networks, Analysis of the Molecular
    Variance and coalescent simulations. The sequencing of a whole mitochondrial
    genome in a north east European Mesolithic individual lead to defining a new branch
    within the human mitochondrial tree.
    This work presents direct evidence that Mesolithic eastern Europeans belonged
    to the same Palaeolithic/Mesolithic genetic background as central and northern
    Europeans. It was also shown that prehistoric eastern Europeans were the recipients of
    multiple migrations from the East in prehistory that had not been previously detected
    and/or timed on the basis of modern mtDNA data. Ancient DNA also provided
    insights in the genetic history of European genetic outliers; the Saami, whose ancestral
    population still remain unidentified, and the Sardinians, whose genetic differentiation
    is proposed to be the result of mating isolation since at least the Bronze Age. This
    study demonstrates the power of aDNA to reveal previously unknown population
    processes in the genetic history of modern Eurasians
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    It looks like that Scythians were a mix, at least maternally. We can also see that mongoloid element became stronger in Iron Age.
    Too bad that they haven't tested Y-DNA autosomal.
    R1a-Z282>Z280>CTS1211>Y35>CTS3402>Y33>CTS8816>Y2902>Y3226>YP5224>BY27800
    N1c-L1026>CTS10760>VL29>Z4908>L550>L1025>M2783>Y5580>L591>BY158>Y5576
    R1a-Z282>Z280>CTS1211>YP1019>YP1020>YP1033*
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    Autosomal DNA tests have been done on a few ancient samples in Eurasia, so far the older samples resemble far northern populations more then southern ones usually..suggesting demographic changes on several occasions..

    that also fits with the overall picture you get from looking at mtDNA linages in Europe through the ages:

    http://www.buildinghistory.org/dista...cientdna.shtml
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    Quote Originally Posted by evon View Post
    Autosomal DNA tests have been done on a few ancient samples in Eurasia, so far the older samples resemble far northern populations more then southern ones usually..suggesting demographic changes on several occasions..
    I was talking about Scythian male-inherited autosomal, this study is connected strictly with female-inherited autosomal. If i'm wrong - correct me, because I haven't got so much time to read everything carefully.

    Quote Originally Posted by evon View Post
    that also fits with the overall picture you get from looking at mtDNA linages in Europe through the ages:

    http://www.buildinghistory.org/dista...cientdna.shtml
    I'm a regular guest of this site, transition from Paleolithic U (U5a, U5b, U2, U4a?) samples to the H, J and K seems to be quite evident. It looks like not only paternal populations were replaced but to some extent, also maternal ones.
    R1a-Z282>Z280>CTS1211>Y35>CTS3402>Y33>CTS8816>Y2902>Y3226>YP5224>BY27800
    N1c-L1026>CTS10760>VL29>Z4908>L550>L1025>M2783>Y5580>L591>BY158>Y5576
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    The Scythians definitely were a mixed group, at the crossroads of Europe and Asia. I know R1a has been found among the males.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xajapa View Post
    The Scythians definitely were a mixed group, at the crossroads of Europe and Asia. I know R1a has been found among the males.
    Do you know if any samples were close to Poland; if so, were they Z93 or Z283?

    http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/...lades-mini.jpg

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ScythianGroups.png
    Current R1b samples found in -Yamnaya-3300–2600 BC, Afanasievo-3300 BCE — 2500 BCE, Vucedol-3000 BC – 2200 BC, Catacomb-2800–2200 BC, Bell Beaker-2800–1800 BCE, Poltavka-2700—2100 BC, Scythian-9th century BC up until the 4th century AD, Sarmatian-4th, 3rd and 2nd centuries BCE....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silesian View Post
    Do you know if any samples were close to Poland; if so, were they Z93 or Z283?

    http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/...lades-mini.jpg

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ScythianGroups.png
    I think they are Z93.

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    Probably both "Eastern Euro" Z280 and "Eurasian" Z93, rather without most typically Slavic M458. Z93 was probably dominant, especially in West Asian Scythians.

    If I remember correctly, there is no Polish sample here.
    R1a-Z282>Z280>CTS1211>Y35>CTS3402>Y33>CTS8816>Y2902>Y3226>YP5224>BY27800
    N1c-L1026>CTS10760>VL29>Z4908>L550>L1025>M2783>Y5580>L591>BY158>Y5576
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