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    Yeah, Kurt Cobain was the best man that has ever existed (along with Layne Staley of course)
    Respect and equality for all
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalitas View Post
    Yeah, Kurt Cobain was the best man that has ever existed (along with Layne Staley of course)
    Respect and equality for all
    Feminism isnt about equality but about preferential treatment

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    Quote Originally Posted by PowerPaw View Post
    Keep your irrelevant bullshit to yourself.
    Feminism is like an injection with testosterone, it makes you behave arrogantly
    Last edited by kabeiros; 11-21-2012 at 04:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graus View Post
    Feminism isnt about equality but about preferential treatment
    It depends. Really I don't like much the term femininsm either. As you said it sounds like "preferential". I'd rather use the word equality.
    But we can't deny that this society has been very chauvinistic. Thank god this has been changing in the last decades. A couple of decades ago it would have been odd to find a woman working as an office manager (at least at my country).
    What I do not understand at all are feminists who claim that abortion is a right. It sounds stupid to claim the right of killing your own child
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    Women don't want to be absolutely equal with men. They want to have all the rights of men but to keep their special privileges too. For example you will never hear from a feminist that mothers and fathers have equal rights, they think that mothers have more rights in regard to custody, abortion etc.

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    Indeed, they also dont want to be hold to the same standards, when it comes to criminal justice or the draft.
    And they also argue for all kinds of privileges and quotas in education and the work force, despite performing better than men.

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    Kate Millet



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    John Lennon was abusive and controlling towards women. Even Yoko Ono. He only said idealistic things that people wanted to hear but never followed his own example.

    There's a poem on youtube "feminism killed Kurt Cobain".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malta1066Falzon View Post
    You can be feminist as much as you want, but would you be offended if I was a male chauvinist?
    Don't be childish, it's not even comparable. Unlike popular belief among ignorant guys, original feminism isn't about man hate or special treatment, it's about respect and fairness, equality among men and women, something that should be obvious.

    Male chauvinism on the other hand is about hate, domination and being superior over women. How can anyone except insecure boys support that?

    Quote Originally Posted by Graus View Post
    Feminism isnt about equality but about preferential treatment
    Not true, read what I wrote above.

    Quote Originally Posted by kabeiros View Post
    Feminism is like an injection with testosterone, it makes you behave arrogantly
    You come into my thread and makes a rude and irrelevant comment, you just wanted to take a piss on a thread you don't approve of, you shouldn't expect me to just let it go unnoticed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kalitas View Post
    Really I don't like much the term femininsm either. As you said it sounds like "preferential". I'd rather use the word equality.
    That works too

    Quote Originally Posted by Kalitas View Post
    What I do not understand at all are feminists who claim that abortion is a right. It sounds stupid to claim the right of killing your own child
    This is an issue that goes both ways. There are plenty of men who refuses to take any responsibility for their children, who makes that clear from the very start, and that puts the woman in a tough spot, and not everyone can deal with that, one need to see it from the woman's perspective too.

    Abortion should not be taken lightly on, but it takes two to have a baby, so both need to take their responsibilities!

    Quote Originally Posted by kabeiros View Post
    Women don't want to be absolutely equal with men. They want to have all the rights of men but to keep their special privileges too. For example you will never hear from a feminist that mothers and fathers have equal rights, they think that mothers have more rights in regard to custody, abortion etc.
    Regarding the custody question, in my (feminist) opinion the parent best suited should get the custody, or the majority of it, this is just too obvious to discuss further tbh. And to ever reach genuine equality, we should not strip off men the right to their children and to be dads, we should do the opposite and encourage men to be caring fathers and take equal responsibility, establish a strong father-and-child bond, just as strong as the stereotypical female version.

    And on the abortion question, as I wrote, it should not be taken lightly on, and both the woman's and the man's opinion should be taken into consideration. But at the end of the day, it's the woman's body, and it's without a doubt the woman that will be the most affected by a baby the first 9 months, the whole pregnancy is on her, so she should have the last word in a decision like this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Graus View Post
    Indeed, they also dont want to be hold to the same standards, when it comes to criminal justice or the draft.
    Justice should not discriminate one way or the other.

    Quote Originally Posted by Graus View Post
    And they also argue for all kinds of privileges and quotas in education and the work force, despite performing better than men.
    I don't agree on this, the best (wo)man should get the job, gender should not be considered in this, and the same salary for both. Same opportunities, that's what I am for.

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    Can't say I'm surprised over all the negative posts in this thread, since a majority of the male users on this forum seem to be more or less misogynistic, in this particular thread only Kalitas seem to understand the positive aspects of feminism (equality).

    And what many seem to not get is that since feminism is a political ideology, there are different kinds of feminism, and different degrees, even though certain core values are shared. Not all feminists are the same, there are varities within the same group, just like in every other ideology.
    Last edited by Lux Aeterna; 11-21-2012 at 07:48 PM.

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    Feminism is a manifestation of Judaism.

    No one with any interest in preservationism would support such a parasitic ideology.

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