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    Default Hello, and a question to you...

    I stumbled upon this website today and I find it very intriguing, so I wish to ask the community a few questions.
    First of all, I would like to say that I sympathize with the European nations burdened by cancerous immigration, that I respect the cultures of Europe that are thus endangered, and that I have the utmost respect for free speech.
    That said, I am to be honest quite surprised by some of what I've seen here. While many of you appear to be knowledgeable, intelligent, fact-seeking rationalists, others appear (at first glance, at least) to be somewhat deluded, misinformed, or (as much as I despise the word) racist. Perhaps I got the wrong impression.
    I understand that culture is important, heritage should be protected, and Western history and traditions have led the human race into the modern era, but some of what I've seen on this forum makes it sound like being European or white is an innate genetic superiority, or that, say, the Islamic cultures have always been as degenerate and backwards as they are today.
    Also, I don't understand the emotional investment this community as a whole appears to have in its ethnic origins. Yes, our ancestors achieved great things and shaped the world, but regions fade from prominence as quickly as they arise. The present and, more importantly, the future dwarf the past in significance. A society focused on its past, however glorious, is not forward-thinking and so will not retain its position of prominence for long.
    Additionally, culture and traditions are ultimately somewhat arbitrary, are they not? Going back to its origins, every culture began with myths developed by ill-informed, irrational primitives. Culture is interesting and all, but too much investment into it and especially rejection of other cultures only restricts the mind and at some point becomes practically a religion.
    Ethnicity is even more arbitrary than culture, in my opinion, as it is essentially superficial when divorced from culture and history, unless of course you believe that genetic differences between ethnicities are more than superficial and instead determine intelligence or individual capacity or something to that effect. I am unaware of evidence proving this and for what it's worth my gut tells me it is false. It's also not a theory I would like to entertain, as it suggests that your ethnicity, rather than your free will or indeed yourself as an individual, is what defines what you are capable of. It would make me feel powerless as an individual.

    My question is simply what are your thoughts on these matters.

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    Hello and welcome

    Just wondering, where did you find the forum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dbkj12 View Post
    A society focused on its past, however glorious, is not forward-thinking and so will not retain its position of prominence for long.
    Positions of prominence change with war not,the entire World looks in the past be it Europe or Asia, people are to frightened to try anything new. It is within the interests of our strategic planners who control our economy and whence our lives to keep us locked in the past. They use religion, materialism, neutered political ideology, empty education and pornography to dumb us down. People who generally have the guts to look into the future and inform us tend to be trampled under.

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    Stick around, Pal, get to know us a bit, see if you still regard us the same way. It's the only real way to evaluate people! Many of us have explained our reasoning a million times elsewhere, and can't be bothered doing it all over again, so perhaps you get a skewed image, I don't know.

    Welcome, anyroad! Pretty unwieldy User Name, if you don't mind me saying. What are we going to call you for short?

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    I'll take that as a statement and welcome you to the forum.

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    Not another bloody atheist!! Welcome anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dbkj12 View Post
    First of all, I would like to say that I sympathize with the European nations burdened by cancerous immigration, that I respect the cultures of Europe that are thus endangered, and that I have the utmost respect for free speech.
    That said, I am to be honest quite surprised by some of what I've seen here. While many of you appear to be knowledgeable, intelligent, fact-seeking rationalists, others appear (at first glance, at least) to be somewhat deluded, misinformed, or (as much as I despise the word) racist.
    Kind of contradicting really - unless by " sympathize " you mean you really don't give a damn. But, if you do- then you must see that it is hard for a person to acknowledge and be quite bothered by immigration without seeming or being somewhat racist.

    I think some here really don't mind being referred to as racist but they may take offense to you referring to them as deluded or misinformed.

    but some of what I've seen on this forum makes it sound like being European or white is an innate genetic superiority
    Isn't it

    or that, say, the Islamic cultures have always been as degenerate and backwards as they are today.
    Haven't they

    Also, I don't understand the emotional investment this community as a whole appears to have in its ethnic origins.
    This coming from a German ..? Hmmmm Not to be rude but if you don't understand then maybe you can begin to and if not ...you probably wouldn't belong here.

    Culture is interesting and all, but too much investment into it and especially rejection of other cultures only restricts the mind and at some point becomes practically a religion.
    I really don't see where this is a bad thing ..? I would have to say no investment into our cultures is part of the problem we have today, wow more than part of the problem. Are you in favor of interracial relations ..? Or only learning and respecting other cultures..? Many people here are invested in their own culture and at the same time interested in others as well. We can accomplish both if wanted, don't ya think ..?

    Ethnicity is even more arbitrary than culture, in my opinion, as it is essentially superficial when divorced from culture and history, unless of course you believe that genetic differences between ethnicities are more than superficial and instead determine intelligence or individual capacity or something to that effect. I am unaware of evidence proving this and for what it's worth my gut tells me it is false. It's also not a theory I would like to entertain, as it suggests that your ethnicity, rather than your free will or indeed yourself as an individual, is what defines what you are capable of. It would make me feel powerless as an individual.
    Ethnicity alone is not always going to define what that person is capable of, but it is going to play a major role, setting aside that one may be better than the other, but for example the lifestyle many blacks are living is defining that they seem to fit well into their major stereo type- that many of them are in fact thugs, killers and scum. I don't believe they just had a bad deck handed to them, I believe it is in them somewhere. In their blood. I do recognize and respect the ones who step away from this and live respectable lives. So yes and no ethnicity does define what you are capable of.

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    First of all, welcome. Second of all, please take the time to understand the dynamics of this particular online community - along with taking the time to get to know who we are individually and what we stand for.

    A great many of us have our deep-seated beliefs you might construe as delusional, but I'm of the opinion that a lot of us are also waking up to the fact that there are a lot of wrongs in this world that have been brought about by globalisation and multiculturalism. The past hasn't always been perfect, but at this rate we could learn a lot from it - and reclaim parts of it that did work well. Because if we don't, then our future is pretty grim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dbkj12 View Post
    While many of you appear to be knowledgeable, intelligent, fact-seeking rationalists, others appear (at first glance, at least) to be somewhat deluded, misinformed, or (as much as I despise the word) racist.
    Sounds like your average snapshot of society then I guess.

    Welcome to the forum.

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    I'll take that as a statement and welcome you to the forum.
    You two should have read the whole thing, then you would have stumbled across this sentence at the end:


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    My question is simply what are your thoughts on these matters.
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