Where does morality comes from?

[Aura]

Why humans have the sense of what is right and wrong, good and bad and how do me know that it is true? do you believe there is true kindness, charity and generosity in human nature? are we really altruistic or selfish? Does morality comes from God or it is product or evolution?

Im curious to see what certain members think about this, I already have my opinion about this

[Drawing-slim]

Why humans have the sense of what is right and wrong, good and bad and how do me know that it is true? do you believe there is true kindness, charity and generosity in human nature? are we really altruistic or selfish? Does morality comes from God or it is product or evolution?

Im curious to see what certain members think about this, I already have my opinion about this

I think there's a good long doscussion thread on this somewhere.

[Superbia]

This sums it up pretty well:

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Well, "the sense of good and bad"... before all those terms where corrupted by Christianity and its moral designed for the empowerment of sheeps and slaves, every positive moral term had the connotation of noble, aristocratic, powerful, beautiful. Greek "agathos" was used in the phrase "kalos kai agathos", "good and beautiful", and "good" here means the spiritual disposition that accompanies such a body as of an sculpture and such a will as that of a proud warrior. Latin "virtus" from "vir", force, manliness. Good is everything that enhances and raises the human powers and affirms its life as intense, strong, capable of pain as well as of refinement, a life that knows itself superior. Everything else is corrupted, nihilistic, anti-natural and decadent.

"The symbol of this battle, written in a script which has remained legible through all human history up to the present, is called “Rome Against Judea, Judea Against Rome.”" (F. Nietzsche)

[Aura]

I like Richard Dawkins explanation and the roots of morality in evolution!

[Superbia]

I like Richard Dawkins explanation and the roots of morality in evolution!

I tend to mistrust such approaches relying only in evolution, because they lack a criteria for judging which forms of life are superior to others: often the mediocre prevail and show better adaptation.

[morski]

Depends mostly(though not entirely*) on the traditions and practices of the culture in which one was socialised and conditioned to, imo.

*That part is going into metaphysics and I'm not particularly keen on getting there.

[Virtuous]

Some say that it's because it's taught to us since childhood and it's not something innate.

But if that's really true, how did the first people who started teaching morality know about it in the first place?

[Virtuous]

I think it is indeed about evolution, when we started to live together starting as small gatherings and developed a conscience we had to establish moral codes in order to survive and live peacefully, later these moral codes have evolved because of influences like religion and such.

[Drawing-slim]

I like Richard Dawkins explanation and the roots of morality in evolution!

Interesting you bring this up because when I observe Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens I start thinking that there must be a god. And i'm not religious by any means, but these two just dont put me at ease on that regard. Just the way they look..

[Virtuous]

I think it is indeed about evolution, when we started to live together starting as small gatherings and developed a conscience we had to establish moral codes in order to survive and live peacefully, later these moral codes have evolved because of influences like religion and such.

I also have to add, today's individualist Capitalist system where everyone is selfish and thinks for himself has led the people become less moral and to develop a nihilistic attitude.