Is a dolichocephalic face a Dinarid or Nordid trait

[Grab the Gauge]

Results of Dienekes are highly imprecise. Negros are spoiling the average of dolichocephaly.
A dolicho Brunn will always have higher brain capacity, than, for example, a brachy Armenoid. A cephalic index is nothing more nor less than ratio between length and width.

I'm afraid this is simply not true, because:


The "dolicocephaly" of Coon's Bruenns is only a reflection of their massive brow ridges -- without the brow ridges they are brachycephalic.

and


As Dienekes page demonstrates, vertical vault height affords the same disparate increase in cranial capacity as lateral skull breadth, meaning that what Armenoids lack in length, they more than make up for with height. Armenoids are known for having very high vaults.

Ultimately however, no Brunn will ever have a cranial capacity as high as a Borreby, or a Mongolian.

Dolicocephaly as a spatial prohibitor is simple geometry. Dolicocephaly is not just a spatial limitation, it's a genetic defect. Very few animals on planet Earth have cylindrical cranial vaults. They are evolutionarily aberrant and also a minoriy of the global human population.

[brennus dux gallorum]

dinarid type is BRACHYCEPHALIC

the two dolicho-mesocephalic types are nordic and mediterranean. I am personaly the second and dolichocephalic

[The Blade]

Dolicoceohalic = small brain, low bodymass, low intelligence

You are generalising again. Mediterranean people have a large number of dolicho individuals among them and they built several empires which lasted for centuries. This wouldn't happen if they were all of low intelligence.
Or you think all of their leaders were brachycephalic?

[Grab the Gauge]

You are generalising again. Mediterranean people have a large number of dolicho individuals among them and they built several empires which lasted for centuries. This wouldn't happen if they were all of low intelligence.
Or you think all of their leaders were brachycephalic?

Building empires and living in cities has nothing to do with intelligence. Mongolians for example have a higher IQ than all Europeans and never built an empire that lasted centuries. Let me tell you what it takes to build a pyramid: a lot of stupid slaves who are willing to stack rocks all day in exchange for bread. Building an empire requires zero skill and zero intelligence.

What takes intelligence is complexity, unpredictability and skill. Hunting reindeer with spears, for example. You have to be able to predict the migration of the herd, where they will go to be intercepted, what spot offers the best geography for a kill, etc. Civilization is the antithesis of intelligence. It's the oversimplification of life. Wake up, do the same mundane activity every day all season in the same location, rinse, repeat.


You asked whether or not civilizations had brachycephalic leaders. The answer is yes:

Tuthankhamen and Akhenaten were brachycephalic:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3354854/

And the mystique would have remained or continued to inspire imagination till the bubble was pricked in a remarkable study that used molecular genetics in 10 mummies to establish kinship and lineage of Tutankhamun and his many ailments.[5] A reexamination showed that the penis of Tutankhamun, which is stored separately is well developed; the chest is missing from the mummy due to preservation as is the pelvic bone. Newer CT scans revealed that he and Akhenaten had brachycephaly and not dolicocephaly. The only feminine feature was the somewhat strong appearance of the iliac bones and the greater sciatic notch, which was slightly pronounced.

The Roman elite were brachycephalic:

On the whole, the well-known sculptures of Caesar, Augustus, and others, although not reliable from the standpoint of accurate measurement, indicate that a mesocephalic to brachycephalic head form was admired. Their facial type is not native to the Mediterranean basin, but is more at home in the north. Nevertheless, the Romans considered the Kelts who invaded Italy tall and blond; hence the blondism of the Romans, including rufosity, must have been in the minority. 51

http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-VI4.htm

[Amud]

That larger skulls are brachycephalic is simple geometry. Take an ellipse. If we want to keep the perimeter of the ellipse constant but vary the eccentricity, we find that the area increases as eccentricity decreases, and the highest possible area is when the ellipse is actually a circle. The same holds for an ellipsoid in three dimensions. Holding surface area constant, the best volume we can get is when we have a sphere.

If an organism is trying to maximize brain size, it's already spending a lot of resources to build a big brain, so naturally it will want to minimize the unnecessary resources it spends. Why would it spend the extra resources to grow a dolichopephalic skull, requiring extra bone, extra skin, and extra nerves to encase the same-sized brain?

Now, maximizing the skull's surface area might be a good idea if you are trying to sweat as much as possible for heat regulation. In hot countries, that might be more important than brain size.

[cosmoo]

I'm afraid this is simply not true, because:


The "dolicocephaly" of Coon's Bruenns is only a reflection of their massive brow ridges -- without the brow ridges they are brachycephalic.

and


As Dienekes page demonstrates, vertical vault height affords the same disparate increase in cranial capacity as lateral skull breadth, meaning that what Armenoids lack in length, they more than make up for with height. Armenoids are known for having very high vaults.

Ultimately however, no Brunn will ever have a cranial capacity as high as a Borreby, or a Mongolian.

Dolicocephaly as a spatial prohibitor is simple geometry. Dolicocephaly is not just a spatial limitation, it's a genetic defect. Very few animals on planet Earth have cylindrical cranial vaults. They are evolutionarily aberrant and also a minoriy of the global human population.

What about Eskimos and their dolichocephaly though? Was Chancelade skull not among the largest dug up from Upper Palaeolithic, yet very dolichocephalic?
Not biased in any way (coming from area with highest head breadth in Europe and average C.I of 85), just wondering.

[Bell Beaker]

Overall is more related with Mediterraneans.

[Grab the Gauge]

What about Eskimos and their dolichocephaly though? Was Chancelade skull not among the largest dug up from Upper Palaeolithic, yet very dolichocephalic?
Not biased in any way (coming from area with highest head breadth in Europe and average C.I of 85), just wondering.

The "dolicocephaly" that is present in Eskimos and Chancelade man is nothing like the dolicocephaly of any other population. Again, as Dienekes article states, vertical vault height has the same disparate effect on cranial size as vault width. Eskimos and Chancelade have the highest vaults in the world. They are thus getting this increase in size from their exceptional vault height which acts as a compensation.

The average Eskimo head length is actually 185mm, which is short headed. Chancelade had a vault length of 193mm, compared with over 205mm for Cro Magnon 1/Les Eyzies 1. In fact Chanelade has one of the shortest vaults of any Upper Paleolithic specimens. On the other hand, Chancelade has a vault height of 152mm, which is extraordinary and leaps and bounds above the very low vaulted Cro Magnon 1 and virtually anyone alive today. 152mm is greater than the breadth of most dolicocephalic skulls.

See pages 110 and 117:


https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B694...it?hl=en&pli=1


The skull is clearly short headed:

[PurityandPain]

Dolicoceohalic = small brain, low bodymass, low intelligence

Brachycephalic = large brain, high bodymass, high intelligence


http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2006/02...and-shape.html



Neanderthal DNA deficiency.

This seems true in most cases, but obviously not in all cases. If you have a long dolichocephalic skull, and you simply shorten it while keeping the same skull-breadth, then you get a decrease in brain volume, even though the skull becomes more brachycephalic.

In the naturally-occurring world, big brains do tend to favor Brachycephalic skulls though.

[Justalittlevisit]

According to Ilse Schwidetzky (or someone else—I don't remember exactly), blue-eyed (incl. grey-eyed) Germans are not more often dolichocephalic than non-blue-eyed Germans, but blond Germans are more often dolichocephalic than non-blond Germans.