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    Quote Originally Posted by Uhtred View Post
    Very interesting, but in my conception, "present" exists, but on the contrary of majority beliefs, it is not a "period of time" that can be measured, but rather a transition. It's when Future becomes past, instantly.

    It's like New Year. When on Dec 31 your watch changes from 23:59 PM to 00:00 AM, it will instantly change 2012 to 2013. There's not a period between the years, it just instantly changes. That's present.
    That transition has no duration. As you just said, it takes place instantly. However, everything that happens or is done, takes place in the present.
    How can anything happen or be done during an instant ?

    The paradox remains. I cannot now do something in the past; it's gone by. The future is not here for me to do anything in it. The present, as we have both said, has no duration, so, when do I do anything ? And when does anything I don't do happen ?

    I think that we could agree that the present is the dimensionless boundary between future snd past. But, this provides no time for anything to happen or be done.
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    Therefore no action requires time to occur in. It follows that time does not exist as its only purpose is to measure the non-existing interval between events.
    The implication of this is that I am constantly doing everything I have ever done and will do. Meaning the past, present and future are not seperate things, but it is the only way our limited intellectual capacity can make sense of the universe.
    This I believe is what leads to predeterminism.
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    Things happen within intervals of time, not at points in time. I don't see a paradox with regards to things happening in some non-existent present.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Svipdag View Post
    That transition has no duration. As you just said, it takes place instantly. However, everything that happens or is done, takes place in the present.
    How can anything happen or be done during an instant ?

    The paradox remains. I cannot now do something in the past; it's gone by. The future is not here for me to do anything in it. The present, as we have both said, has no duration, so, when do I do anything ? And when does anything I don't do happen ?

    I think that we could agree that the present is the dimensionless boundary between future snd past. But, this provides no time for anything to happen or be done.
    Exactly, that's what I meant: present has no duration, because present is just a transition between future and past.

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