Kurultáj - The Eastern Tribal Assembly

[Arrow Cross]

In all due honesty though, the genuine, true Hungarian nationalistic side is already a passionate enemy of both the EU and Israel, leaning more and more towards our eastern cousins. And that includes leading figures. But it's not us who're turning our backs on Europe, it's Europe that has turned its back on us; and its own self.

[Onur]

I think Hungarians have an unnecessary dilemma of "choosing east or west" but why? You can be both. Hungary is already European due to it`s geographical location but also a part of eastern world due to it`s history and ancestral past.

You can have both eastern and western cultural values like we have in Turkey. Who says that you can only be European or anti-European? There is no such thing.

[Arrow Cross]

That's all nice and true under normal circumstances, but being in the EU Reich, the moment a sane (read: not slaves to World Jewry) government assumes power in Hungary, the NATO will militarily intervene immediately. A defeated, former Axis slave country is under very close watch and held to very strict standards of obedience. That's what it means to be "European" in the XXIst Century. Goose step into your racial, cultural, economic and moral doom with the decadent West, or else.

[Szegedist]

In all due honesty though, the genuine, true Hungarian nationalistic side is already a passionate enemy of both the EU and Israel, leaning more and more towards our eastern cousins. And that includes leading figures. But it's not us who're turning our backs on Europe, it's Europe that has turned its back on us; and its own self.

This is correct. Thankfully the Western oriented 'nationalists', the ones who try to "prove" that the Huns were blonde haired and blue eyed are a minority, with no real political presentation.

Such groups exist, like the MNA, who see our neigbours as our brothers and Jobbik, HVIM as "chauvinist Jewish provocateurs"

These often attack our Eastern Cousins, and give us a bad name.





http://kuruc.info/r/6/103580/

[Szegedist]

I think Hungarians have an unnecessary dilemma of "choosing east or west" but why? You can be both. Hungary is already European due to it`s geographical location but also a part of eastern world due to it`s history and ancestral past.

You can have both eastern and western cultural values like we have in Turkey. Who says that you can only be European or anti-European? There is no such thing.

You are right, and by no means do we want to isolate ourselves from the rest of Europe. I am all for friendly relations with European countries.
Unfortunately, in the current times (and previously in history) they have been isolating us, and not the other way around. We have no real friends in Europe except Poland. Even Croats fought against us several times during our independence wars.

In order to avoid misunderstandings, we need to clarify that this would in no way mean that Hungary should separate from Europe. In fact, what we propose would mean a strengthening of our position in Europe, as Hungary could thus become the Western bastion of a Turanic alliance.

[Kazuma]

how can you feel more related to turkish people than to slovak/czech/poles or austrian? it's a mistery for me...without offence for your ideas and for the turkish people obviously

[eeroli]

Hungarians are generally nice people (been there twice). But but. What is this?

[Onur]

What is this? Who are these people?

As far as i know, Hungary and Slovakia cannot get along due to historical reasons and tension was always high between them. Slovakia has been created in former Hungarian territories and there are so many Hungarians in there who lives in the areas bordering Hungary.

Are these people pictured here loves Slovaks and dislikes Turks? This is absurd!

[Arrow Cross]

What is this? Who are these people?

As far as i know, Hungary and Slovakia cannot get along due to historical reasons and tension was always high between them. Slovakia has been created in former Hungarian territories and there are so many Hungarians in there who lives in the areas bordering Hungary.

Are these people pictured here loves Slovaks and dislikes Turks? This is absurd!

MNA (Hungarian National Front) is a tiny and insignificant splinter group of National Socialists who take a noble principle (anti-chauvinism) and apply it the wrong way. Hungarians and Slovakians have been living in a common state and a common geopolitical entity for a thousand years, harmoniously coexisting for the better part of it. We shall eventually return to that state and become mutually stronger through it.

Hungarians are generally nice people (been there twice). But but. What is this?

Do not misunderstand! There is absolutely no animosity towards Finland on the Hungarian Right, in fact, we continue to honour you as a brave and worthy people with linguistic relations to us. However, our common origins might actually be a myth, but whatever the case, we're determined to find our true roots.

how can you feel more related to turkish people than to slovak/czech/poles or austrian? it's a mistery for me...without offence for your ideas and for the turkish people obviously

It's a complex question, as you could probably gather from this thread. Suffice to say that one's neighbours are not necessarily one's best friends, especially in the stormy heart of Europe. One's relatives, however, wherever they might be, will always possess special value. We might be culturally European now, but our blood ties and steppe legacy always made us a bridge country between West and East.

[Onur]

how can you feel more related to turkish people than to slovak/czech/poles or austrian? it's a mistery for me...without offence for your ideas and for the turkish people obviously

I posted this msg in some other thread here before but here is the Hungary`s greatest historical treasure;


From 10th to 12th century, the Hungarian kingdom was known as Tourkia/Turkey and their kings was getting crowned as "king of the Turks". They started to call their country as Hungary only after christianity has been largely established among them. Around that time, Anatolia started to be called as Tourkia instead of Pannonia.

Look at the Hungarian holy crown of 11th century;

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To the right there is a picture of the Hungarian King Géza I (1074–1077), with the Greek inscription: "ΓΕΩΒΙΤZΑC ΠΙΣΤΟC ΚΡΑΛΗC ΤΟΥΡΚΙΑC" (Geōvitzas pistós králēs Tourkías, meaning "Géza I, faithful kralj of the land of the Turks"). The contemporary Byzantine name for the Hungarians was "Turks", while the Hungarian branch of the Greek Orthodox Church, under Constantinople's jurisdiction, was named the "Metropolitanate of Tourkia" (Hungary), and the head of this church was the "Metropolitan of Tourkia" (Hungary).[5]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Crown_of_Hungary