Black Irish

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Black Irish is a new world term. No one in Ireland used that term. I think it might have its roots in people in the US trying to pass as white when they have some African of NA blood. Just thinking about this logically why would Irish people start calling someone with dark hair "Black Irish"? Why would Irish differentiate people in that way?

No...a thousand times no. It's never been anything to do with black people.

Early settlers to US had around 80% light eyes (as of 1800), the didn't have same characteristics as modern UK or even UK of its day. Until 1900s when they started letting southern italians and such in, it had much higher % of light eyes than UK.

Later waves of settlers had more black hair, which was relatively uncommon until then, especially in Irish Americans.

That's it, done finito. Topic never needs to be discussed again.

In the past Ireland was ruled by Chieftains and clan groups. The Irish have always had a variety of hair colours and there is no isolated group in Ireland displaying dark hair and eyes.

But it's not homogenous, and early irish settlers had more light eyes and more light hair. They are not the same as settlers than came earlier and came from other areas, which were not so mixed up then. Isles also did NOT have the same demographic as when the first Irish came over.

All the Irish cluster together.

Once again, this means nothing. Especially not when talking about population that's completely and utterly different than when the first Melonheads left for America. People in Ireland who don't have giant heads and stubby legs, came later.

It's not like Britain doesn't have its share of dark haired people or any other country. It's most probably similar to "Black Dutch".

But they didn't pull people out of random areas, and England has changed an awful lot since the early settler days. Like I said USA had 80% light eyes. That's higher than any country that exists today, and certainly higher than England was at the time. Black hair was also not common. That's why the term Black Irish exists. The Irish who mixed to blacks, are just called black today. It takes 100+ years to have any chance of an ancestor of a pure black being able to pass. All of this is just nonsense, and barely any passable whites in america are mixed to blacks - most of them because they mixed with jews or hispanics who already had a small amount.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Also, I am pleased Coon agrees the main attribute of note for Irish is their large heads. I am more than happy to have a head measureoff with anyone who wants to have a go. Prepare to be embarrassed, phony Irish.

[Cody Gearhart]

The Irish in Cork county are in particular black Irish. I have no idea why though.

[Grace O'Malley]

The Irish in Cork county are in particular black Irish. I have no idea why though.

What exactly are you on about? Irish in Cork are no different than in any other part of Ireland.

Here's what they look like.






Here's a famous Cork man

[Bloody]

Jason Statham?

That guy is pretty much within average british range, remember brits and Irish are not hardcore nordics like danish people or northern germans. A lot more of brits in fact overlap easier with the french, specially the more cromagnid types, while the more long faced atlantids and bell beaker types (like young roger waters) could pass for nothing but British..

[Bloody]

I will include here also brits of similar type..

A lot of those faces look odd for continental europe..

[Profileid]

Gillian Norris is probably the best example.She's quite sexy. An Irish American dude told me his sister had similar facial features to her.

[Cody Gearhart]

That guy is pretty much within average british range, remember brits and Irish are not hardcore nordics like danish people or northern germans. A lot more of brits in fact overlap easier with the french, specially the more cromagnid types, while the more long faced atlantids and bell beaker types (like young roger waters) could pass for nothing but British..

What phenotype is Jason Statham?

[Cody Gearhart]

What exactly are you on about? Irish in Cork are no different than in any other part of Ireland.

Here's what they look like.






Here's a famous Cork man

I pretty much told you. I always thought Irish from cork county were darker than the rest of ireland.

[Bloody]

I pretty much told you. I always thought Irish from cork county were darker than the rest of ireland.

Irish from the rest of the country are not lighter on average than that!