Why Do Some Newer Nationalities Try To Steal The History Of Older Ones?

[Anglojew]

Why do some newer (post-Roman) nationalities try to steal the history and identity of other more ancient nationalities and/or deny those (more ancient) nationalities their history and culture?

In particular I'm thinking of how so many people from Turks, Albanians and (FYR)Macedonians claim to be the real descendents of the Ancient Greeks and/or that some Tribe, considered Greek until now actually belonged to their ethnicity, which was really responsible for Greek and/or Roman and therefore European civilisation.

The other obvious example are the various people claiming Modern Jews aren't descended from Ancient Jews (despite all the evidence to the contrary) or claiming Jews are Turkic Khazars while claiming Palestinian Arabs are the real descendants of Ancient Israel (which is partially true as they are in fact at least partially descended from Jews in many cases but so are actual Jews who also kept their identity in exile while Palestinians are for all intents and purposes indistinguishable from other Arabs today). British Israelism is another obvious example of this.

My own few is it's a form of jealously because many of those cultures were illiterate in ancient times and so, having to real history of the period of their own, have to usurp the idenity of others. There are various other examples of groups trying to claim they're Sumerian or some other ancient culture.

[Queen B]

Inferiority complex.
Have you seen any country with rich history acting that way?
Have you seen Italians, Iranians, Egyptians, or Chinese act that way?

The mentality of ''I have to make you looks worst so I look nice next to you'' is their trademark.

[Annihilus]

Some Ashkenazi Jews decend from Khazars, some modern Turks decend from Trojans. Ottoman empire was successor of Byzantine empire, why is that stealing?

[kabeiros]

You've got it right Anglojew, Greeks and Jews have recorded our history since at least 500 BC (and even earlier, incorporated into myths and epics in Greece and into religious texts in Israel) and some people are butthurt because of this...

[Jackson]

Why do some newer (post-Roman) nationalities try to steal the history and identity of other more ancient nationalities and/or deny those (more ancient) nationalities their history and culture?

In particular I'm thinking of how so many people from Turks, Albanians and (FYR)Macedonians claim to be the real descendents of the Ancient Greeks and/or that some Tribe, considered Greek until now actually belonged to their ethnicity, which was really responsible for Greek and/or Romanand therefore European civilisation.

The other obvious example are the various people claiming Modern Jews aren't descended from Ancient Jews (despite all the evidence to the contrary) or claiming Jews are Turkic Khazars while claiming Palestinian Arabs are the real descendants of Ancient Israel (which is partially true as they are in fact descended from Jews in many cases but so are actual Jews who also kept their identity in exile while Palestinians are for all intents and purposes indistinguishable from other Arabs). British Israelism is an obvious example of this.

My own few is it's a form of jealously because many of those cultures were illiterate in ancient times and so, having to real history of the period of their own, have to usurp the idenity of others. There are various other examples of groups trying to claim they're Sumerian or some other ancient culture.

In most cases it seems to tie in with the idea of ownership, nativeness, the rights to be in certain positions. European pre-Christian kings would often write up genealogies that traced them back to a particular God, or would include nobles of a conquered people among their ancestors to give them more claim and right.
I don't know much about Jewish history, so i don't know if it is the same with them - But that usually seems to be the case in Europe or northern Europe. If a leader or King can prove he has a real connection to a place or a particular people, that strengthens his right to rule in a way. Whether this was actively done, or whether it was subconscious for the most part i don't know. It could be that this might be 'family myth' that gets propagated for the benefit of a new powerful member of the family.
People are much more likely to accept a ruler or someone of Kingly status if he is not foreign to the people he is trying to rule.

Everyone from the early Anglo-Saxon kings through to the Nazis did this and it is nothing unusual. For example archaeology in Germany in the WWII sought to directly tie in modern Germans with the ancient past. If it was perceived as true (whether or not connections like this are true is frankly irrelevant as per the aims) then it would strengthen the tie between the people and their ancient ancestors, and the people and the land.

[Dengizik]

In particular I'm thinking of how so many people from Turks claim to be the real descendents of the Ancient Greeks and/or that some Tribe

I've never seen that.

[Anglojew]

Inferiority complex.
Have you seen any country with rich history acting that way?
Have you seen Italians, Iranians, Egyptians, or Chinese act that way?

The mentality of ''I have to make you looks worst so I look nice next to you'' is their trademark.

The Turks have a rich history yet do it continously but I generally agree.

[Anglojew]

I've never seen that.

There's multiple threads on this forum about how the Trojans and/or Etruscans are Turks.

[Hochmeister]

The fake nations falsify history.

[Anglojew]

Some Ashkenazi Jews decend from Khazars, some modern Turks decend from Trojans. Ottoman empire was successor of Byzantine empire, why is that stealing?

Some Ashkenazi Jews show like 2% Turkic ancestry but this could be from anywhere eg Karaites (Jewish Turks)

Case in point about the Trojans!!

The Ottoman Empire DEFEATED the Byzantine Empire it didn't succeed it except geographically. Russia is the successor state to the Orthodox Christian Byzantine with Moscow often referred to as "The Third Rome" for this reason.