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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleAtHeart View Post
    Yeah, that's basically nothing relevant to anything i said
    What the hell are you arguing then? This was your original claim.

    "No they don't. The German population in America is greatly exaggerated. Most people in America that claim German heritage are actually English."

    Which was fallacious, had logical inconsistencies, and had no sources to substantiate it. Basically pulled out of your ass.


    The Pennsylvanian Dutch (German) population started at 1 million in 1820, then got up to 13 million today? All homogenized? Okay, I'll accept that stat without arguing.
    Well the Pennsylvania Dutch weren't the only Germans to come to the U.S. And I didn't say they were homogenized, although in some areas they are, Southeastern Pennsylvania in particular. Also what I posted was the population of Pennsylvania itself, of course not all people in Pennsylvania have German ancestry, and not all Pennsyvlania Germans lived/stayed in Pennsyvlania.


    So, you proved there's 13 million Pennsylvanian Dutch people, in America, a country with a population of 315 million people, 308 million of whom are white.

    How does that disprove my assertion?
    308 million people in the United States aren't non-hispanic white. The number is almost 100 million less than that. So I don't know where you get your figures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan View Post
    What the hell are you arguing then? This was your original claim.

    "No they don't. The German population in America is greatly exaggerated. Most people in America that claim German heritage are actually English."

    Which was fallacious, had logical inconsistencies, and had no sources to substantiate it. Basically pulled out of your ass.




    Well the Pennsylvania Dutch weren't the only Germans to come to the U.S. And I didn't say they were homogenized, although in some areas they are, Southeastern Pennsylvania in particular. Also what I posted was the population of Pennsylvania itself, of course not all people in Pennsylvania have German ancestry, and not all Pennsyvlania Germans lived/stayed in Pennsyvlania.




    308 million people in the United States aren't non-hispanic white. The number is almost 100 million less than that. So I don't know where you get your figures.
    I put forth the assertion that most people in America that claim German decent are English (I should have said British/Irish here). Nonetheless, you post about Pennsylvanian Dutch to counter my argument, a relatively small population, whose numbers (based on your info posted) seem very skewed/suspect and that further proves my my argument.

    btw I also did post a stat on the previous page about Colonial English making up the majority of whites. That's probably the only relevant stat posted so far

    But you are right about something, "non-Hispanic whites" wtf is that? Apparently if you subtract that, the white population in America is 100 million lower lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleAtHeart View Post
    I put forth the assertion that most people in America that claim German decent are English (I should have said British/Irish here). Nonetheless, you post about Pennsylvanian Dutch to counter my argument, a relatively small population, whose numbers (based on your info posted) seem very skewed/suspect and that further proves my my argument.
    Well the Pennsylvania Dutch were Germans. Which contradicts your statement. And, no - they're not a relatively small population. There are 3.5 million in Pennsylvania, but plenty in neighboring states as well.

    Maryland

    In terms of race and ethnicity, the state is 58.2% White (54.7% non-Hispanic White alone), 29.4% Black or African American, and 5.5% Asian. Hispanics and Latinos of any race make up 8.2% of the population.[55] The five largest reported ancestries in Maryland are German (15.7%), Irish (11.7%), English (9%), unspecified American (5.8%), and Italian (5.1%).[56]
    Ohio

    26.5% German
    14.1 Irish
    9.0% English
    7.9% American
    6.4% Italian
    5.7% Slavic: (3.8% Polish, 1.2% Slovak, 0.7% Russian)
    2.5% French
    1.9% Scottish
    1.7% Hungarian
    1.6% Dutch
    1.1% Welsh
    1.1% Scotch-Irish
    New York

    The major ancestry groups in New York State are African American (15.8%), Italian (14.4%), Irish (12.9%), German (11.1%) and English (6%). According to a 2010 estimate, 21.7% of the population is foreign-born.
    Virginia

    German 11.7%

    Black or African American 19.8%

    English 10.7%
    Then when we add the Midwestern States, which have German populations in the 40%, from the migrations in the 19th century , it makes quite a bit of sense.

    Top to least states (as of 2000 census)

    California 5,517,470
    Pennsylvania 3,491,269
    Ohio 3,231,788
    Illinois 2,668,955
    Texas 2,542,996
    Wisconsin 2,455,980
    Michigan 2,271,091
    New York 2,250,309
    Florida 2,270,456
    Minnesota 1,949,346
    Indiana 1,629,766
    Missouri 1,576,813
    Washington 1,319,975
    Iowa 1,169,638
    New Jersey 1,092,054
    Colorado 1,090,983
    North Carolina 1,020,432
    Arizona 977,613
    Virginia 973,438
    Maryland 937,887
    Kansas 856,348
    Oregon 811,780
    Georgia 757,769
    Nebraska 738,894
    Kentucky 638,231
    Tennessee 612,669
    Oklahoma 531,375
    South Carolina 425,455
    Louisiana 403,222
    Massachusetts 402,176
    Connecticut 365,727
    Arkansas 358,764
    West Virginia 354,704
    Nevada 338,717
    South Dakota 334,068
    Idaho 317,536
    Utah 313,733
    Alabama 354,259
    North Dakota 290,452
    Montana 282,130
    New Mexico 219,278
    Mississippi 172,456
    Wyoming 144,972
    Delaware 133,757
    New Hampshire 124,430
    Alaska 121,832
    Maine 109,401
    Hawaii 83,967
    Vermont 67,706
    Rhode Island
    Dist. of Columbia 27,450
    Nationwide: 42,841,569

    btw I also did post a stat on the previous page about Colonial English making up the majority of whites. That's probably the only relevant stat posted so far

    But you are right about something, "non-Hispanic whites" wtf is that? Apparently if you subtract that, the white population in America is 100 million lower lol
    Hispanics whites tend not to be white. So we can likely count a fifth of them as white, I suppose.

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    This combined with the right of the American government to kill American citizens based off of suspicion is one step closer to an Orwellain world. We already see the tactic of pointing to a different country and saying, "That is our enemy," even though they are not even a threat to us, and the public believes it.

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