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    "You are the one living in a fantasy world, you have greater delusions and need to justify your claim to Irish heritage than a mulatto who is trying to claim to be a true ancient greek."

    I have to put this quote in my signature. LOL!

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    "I'm as English as blood pudding!" says EDL's only pakistani member.
    Out Of Africa Theory is a lie.
    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...88#post3431588
    And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    Melonhead your post above comes off a bit deranged. How can someone born in Ireland with all Irish heritage not be Irish? I suppose someone like you who is an American mutt claims to be more Irish. Your idea that the Irish have all been replaced is like something out of the X Files. I'm interested in dna and have had myself and 3 members of my family's dna done. My brother is M222 which is as Irish as you can get.

    You are coming across as NUTS. There is something not right about you. I know I'm Irish and what you have posted above is just ridiculous. My grandmother was a native Irish speaker from Roscommon and all our names are Irish except a Great Grandmother who had a Scottish name. Both my mother and father could speak Irish. My father spoke Connacht Gaelic and my mother spoke Munster Gaelic. You are an American and you are posting complete misinformation on the Irish.

    I don't have an agenda but just don't believe your outdated spiel about the Irish being Basque. Go on to Anthrogenica and read some threads there. Lots of "real Irish" like myself on there. I don't post but read some of the threads by posters like Dubhthach. I would rather learn about Irish and their genetics from actual Irish people and not some American who posts about his huge IQ.

    Agenda my arse. What a load of bollocks you've posted. So all English are Germanics and Irish are Basque. Well genetics doesn't agree with you but you think you know better. I'm Irish and you're not.

    Here's a very good thread to read with a lot of discussion on the Origins of the Irish. "Need to justify my claims to be Irish" haha. Irish born with family all Irish. What a pathetically stupid statement Melonhead? I've lost any respect I might have had for you saying something like that. Do you claim everyone isn't their nationality.

    I never said I was "Ulster Scots". I've only got a Great Grandmother who has a Scots name but she was Catholic. Lots of Irish people have Scots names for God's sake. I think you are forgetting I was actually born in Ireland!.

    http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthre...s-of-the-Irish

    No one who's Irish would ever say English and Irish are exactly the same, it's utterly retarded. They are not even the same broad language group. Yet you have done so.

    You speak english, and most your ancestors never spoke irish as their first language. Therefore you are not (very) Irish. End of story.

    Ulster scots are not irish, english are not irish. The ulster scots are probably not even originally from scotland, either. You are either completely ignorant about ethnogenesis of the peoples of british isle or have a HUGE bias. I am guessing the latter one because you also have a huge attack trying to deny any commonality between Irish and Basques even though they are the two groups with highest amount of r1b y-dna Yeah, I am totally sure that english and scando I y-dna that split off like 40k-60k years ago is closer than an r1b subtype that split off 1500 years ago
    Out Of Africa Theory is a lie.
    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...88#post3431588
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    Also, for fucks sake you have J1C3f mtdna as well, you could well be an arab or gypsy with that mtdna. TOTALLY TRUE REAL ABORIGINAL EUROPEAN. My mtdna is V, one of the most obviously euro-aboriginal ones that there is. I am even more convinced of this since it is so rare, and yet has penetrated every single nook of europe including places like basque territory, swiss alps, ireland etc..
    Out Of Africa Theory is a lie.
    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...88#post3431588
    And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    Due to the ANZACs. I read a bit about Ataturk and think he was a great leader. His speech about the ANZAC dead is quoted in Australia nearly every year. It was very noble and considerate to Australian mothers who had lost their sons.

    “Those heroes that shed their blood

    And lost their lives.

    You are now lying in the soil of a friendly country.

    Therefore, rest in peace.

    There is no difference between the Johnnies

    And the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side

    Here in this country of ours,

    You, the mothers,

    Who sent their sons from far away countries

    Wipe away your tears,

    Your sons are now lying in our bosom

    And are in peace

    After having lost their lives on this land they have

    Become our sons as well”.

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    Looks a lot like my maternal grandfather.

    Probably this is more like what a 'real' brunn looks like, very large body and skull like the original skulls the type is based on.
    Out Of Africa Theory is a lie.
    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...88#post3431588
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonhead View Post
    Also, for fucks sake you have J1C3f mtdna as well, you could well be an arab or gypsy with that mtdna. TOTALLY TRUE REAL ABORIGINAL EUROPEAN. My mtdna is V, one of the most obviously euro-aboriginal ones that there is. I am even more convinced of this since it is so rare, and yet has penetrated every single nook of europe including places like basque territory, swiss alps, ireland etc..

    Espada tengo. Lo demás, Dios lo remedie.

    In the west almost all Spain had been subjugated, except that part which adjoins the cliffs where the Pyrenees end and is washed by the nearer waters of the ocean. Here two powerful nations, the Cantabrians and the Asturians, lived in freedom from the rule of Rome.")
    — Lucius Anneus Florus , Epitome de T. Livio Bellorum omnium annorum DCC Libri duo Bellum Cantabricum et Asturicum


    Ethnicity of the Celts/Iberian. Tribes: Avariginos, Blendi, Concanos, Coniscos, Orgenomescos, Plentusios, Tamáricos and Vadinienses.--->http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...40#post3047240

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lábaru View Post
    Is that supposed to prove something? Obviously it came with neolithic at earliest. It probably came in Iron age. It's pretty obvious the source is not europe.



    Here is V. Its epicenters are in pyrenees and in the sami. It doesn't get more aboriginal than that.

    More intriguingly, haplogroup V is one of the four Eurasian haplogroups found among the Fulani people of Central Africa, who have high percentages of haplogroup R1b-V88. It is therefore likely that V was one of the original haplogroups of R1b people, and perhaps of the Paleolithic mammoth hunters from whom R1b is descended. Unfortunately no data is available on the V subclades of the Fulani.
    So assuming original Irish are r1b then it seems I can maternally trace back all the way to the first Irish woman to ever live. Which is no big surprise, that side of the family is as "stereotypically Irish" as it gets. That is where my giant head comes from, and Irish according to Coon have the biggest heads that there are for a nation - back when he did his studies anyway.


    j1c on the other hand:
    Typically European J1c subclades occasionally have deep clades found in West Asia, South Asia, Central Asia or North Asia. In most cases those subclades would have been spread outside Europe by the Indo-European migrations. Among potential candiates are J1c1 (found in Uzbekistan), J1c2a5 (found in the Canaries, among Volga Tatars and in Siberia), J1c2m (found in Turkmenistan, Siberia and Romania), J1c3e1 (found in Turkey), J1c3f (found in the North Caucasus and Kazakhstan), J1c4 (found in Siberia), J1c5 (found in India and among the Yakuts of Siberia), J1c7 (found in Armenia and Kuwait), J1c8 (found in India), J1c12a and J1c12b (found in Iraq and Azerbaijan). All of them are also found both in western and eastern Europe. Unfortunately, data for deep J subclades from Central and South Asia is still sparse at the moment and it is hard to confirm this with certainty.
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    http://miriamhakedosha.blogspot.com/...-r1b-m222.html

    Here is some talk about m222 r1b as well. I don't see that centering in western irish (remaining irish-only speakers). It's in northern irish and lowland scots, the northern irish being the ones most mixed to english (as you admitted yourself your family has).

    This is like goatherder in Cairo claiming to be a pyramid builder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonhead View Post
    Is that supposed to prove something? Obviously it came with neolithic at earliest. It probably came in Iron age. It's pretty obvious the source is not europe.
    The whole europe has Neolithic genes from East Mediterranean and Middle East, is part of European genome. J maternal haplogroup is normal for Europe.

    Espada tengo. Lo demás, Dios lo remedie.

    In the west almost all Spain had been subjugated, except that part which adjoins the cliffs where the Pyrenees end and is washed by the nearer waters of the ocean. Here two powerful nations, the Cantabrians and the Asturians, lived in freedom from the rule of Rome.")
    — Lucius Anneus Florus , Epitome de T. Livio Bellorum omnium annorum DCC Libri duo Bellum Cantabricum et Asturicum


    Ethnicity of the Celts/Iberian. Tribes: Avariginos, Blendi, Concanos, Coniscos, Orgenomescos, Plentusios, Tamáricos and Vadinienses.--->http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...40#post3047240

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