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    Quote Originally Posted by RussiaPrussia View Post
    he killed sure a lot of russians and greeks
    I don't see Russian and Greek areas in that map. Maybe lots of Caucasus peoples but the Russians weren't there yet at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sky earth View Post
    Timurlane was a Mongol from the Barlas tribe who got Turkified right?
    If that's true then it doesn't mean anything as he saw himself as Turkic.
    He was Mongol who mixed with Turkic tribes like Uzbeks. On wiki it said something about Barlas who intermingled with Tukic tribes.

    " Gerasimov also found that Timur's facial characteristics conformed to that of fairly Mongoloid features with somewhat Caucasoid admixture.[70] In the study of "Anthropological composition of the population of Central Asia" shows the cranium of Timur predominate the characters of the South Siberian Mongoloid type.[86] Timur is classified as being closer to the Mongoloid race with some admixture. "

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    When Tamerlane reached the Caucasus in the 14th century the Chechens must have resisted so fiercely that Tamerlane sought to make them his allies and presented them with a precious sabre. According to the saga, he asked his commander: “Is it true that you have subjugated the Chechens, that their widows are weeping and wailing and you have taken their pondurs from them?” – “No, sire,” the officer was compelled to admit. “They are playing on their panduri and dancing!” Tamerlane replied “Then you have not vanquished them!”
    The Chechens fought Tamerlane's forces fiercely, but eventually they were overwhelmed. Tamerlane devestated Chechnya. It is said only a third of all Chechens survived his butchery. Chechens were forced to abandon the Northern lowlands and retreated back into our precious mountains as we have so many times in our history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sky earth View Post
    Timurlane was a Mongol from the Barlas tribe who got Turkified right?
    Timur was a Turk in all aspects. His supposed Mongol origin and connection to Genghis Khan is thought to be made up by his grandson for legitimacy after Timur's death. When Timur was alive, he was a de facto ruler, a warlord, not a khan. He had to keep Mongol Sultan Mahmud on the throne as a puppet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altay View Post
    Timur was a Turk in all aspects. His supposed Mongol origin and connection to Genghis Khan is thought to be made up by his grandson for legitimacy after Timur's death. When Timur was alive, he was a de facto ruler, a warlord, not a khan. He had to keep Mongol Sultan Mahmud on the throne as a puppet.

    Well Timur was from the Barlas tribes of Mongols origins however the part about Timur was connected with Genghis Khan may not be true but he was Mongol.

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    he was an enemy of all European peoples.

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    Well, Timur also attacked on Ottoman Turks and caused interregnum period for 11 years. The all death thing might be exaggerated but the thing, he was a catastrophic ruler for the West Asia, is right.

    However, I perceive him as a wise leader and a real intellectual. It is known he protected scientists and invited them to Samarkand. Also his grandsons(Ulugh Beg and Babur) were definitely great people as well.
    Quote Originally Posted by Yabgu View Post
    There is no ethnicity called "Anatolian", and no such thing as "Anatolian Greek genes" or "Armenoid genes".. It is a political rhetoric to cause identity erosion.. Eastern Huns are considered to be the ancestors of modern day Turks and they were a hybrid of Asiatic and Caucasian, but more dominantly Caucasian.. Hun was not an ethnicity itself, but a large tribal confederative structure.. That is why Turks already had a rich genetic pool before the full conquest of Anatolia region..

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    this guy does'nt come close to hitler and stalin.
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    On the left, the Middle-East 4000 years ago; On the right, Spain 3000 years ago:
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    *sigh* The biggest mistake/tragedy that the Spaniards and the Portuguese have ever done was propagating with native Indian and Black women creating useless biracial and triracials in the Americas.

    Ask Philo anything you'd like barring obvious troll questions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoca View Post
    British killed 90 million Native Americans in America.
    lulz, there was never 90 million native americans.. ever. They were probably around 2-5million all scattered across the huge continent.

    I though it was disease and Spaniards that wiped them out.
    It was but he's too dumb and ignorant to know otherwise.

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