The Simon Wiesenthal Center to Lithuania: Ban 'Fascist Ideology' Marches

[microrobert]

The Simon Wiesenthal Center to Lithuania: Ban 'Fascist Ideology' Marches

The Simon Wiesenthal Center called upon Lithuanian authorities to ban the neo-Nazi marches that regularly take place to mark Lithuanian Independence Day.

At a press conference hosted by the Center's chief Nazi-hunter, Israel director Dr. Efraim Zuroff, together with leading Vilnius activist Prof. Dovid Katz the two presented the case for banning the marches.

"The best way to combat the resurgence of right-wing nationalist extremism in Lithuania is to honestly confront the country’s Holocaust history, which includes extensive complicity of local Nazi collaborators in the mass murder of Lithuanian Jews and Jews from, and in, other lands as well,” asserted Zuroff during his presentation.

SWC to Lithuania: Ban 'Fascist Ideology' Marches - Jewish World - News - Israel National News

[lI]

They are nationalist but not neo-nazis, to be fair.

This year's march:






On the other hand, anti-fa movement is not really against anti-Nazism but against any sort of Nationalism, whenever those dummies make marches they equate historical coat of arms of Lithuania (in the poster on the left) to a Nazi symbol - now that, in my opinion, is offensive.

[Skomand]

please delete

[Skomand]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dovid_Katz
Dovid Katz: Baltic Project to Delete the Holocaust from European History. Observations from Lithuania, Zwölfter Vortrag der achten Herbert-Berman-Gedenkreihe, gehalten Jerusalem 23. Juni 2009


„including delegitimization of the anti-Nazi resistance (resulting most recently in prosecutorial campaigns against Holocaust survivors who resisted); delegitimization of the Wiesenthal Center and efforts to bring Nazi war criminals to justice; extreme embellishment of Jewish participation in Soviet rule; redefinition by law of the word 'genocide'; provocation of anti-Semitic moods centered on local Jews and Holocaust survivors; marginalization of valiant local non-Jewish champions of truth-telling, and their replacement by lavishly sponsored 'double genocide' commissions, research centers and museums.“,

I'm wondering what Katz means by "redefinition by law of the word genocide". I'm asking because in Lithuania there is a genocide commemoration day in honour of the Prussian-Lithuanian ethnic group who were Germans:

spalio 16-oji – Mažosios Lietuvos gyventojų genocido diena

[Nihtgenga]

Something somewhat similar is taking place in the US. Obama is creating an 'anti-radicalization' internet taskforce. Not really related to marches but to banning 'fascist.'

http://www.hstoday.us/focused-topics...alization.html

Supposedly it is meant to curb inciting violence on the internet but I imagine it will really be used to arrest dissenters. The The Interagency Working Group to Counter Online Radicalization is to be headed by Quintan Wiktorowicz.

Wiktorowiczs stated,

Violent extremist groups ─ like Al Qaeda and its affiliates and adherents, violent supremacist groups, and violent “sovereign citizens” ─ are leveraging online tools and resources to propagate messages of violence and division. These groups use the Internet to disseminate propaganda, identify and groom potential recruits, and supplement their real-world recruitment efforts. Some members and supporters of these groups visit mainstream fora to see whether individuals might be recruited or encouraged to commit acts of violence, look for opportunities to draw targets into private exchanges, and exploit popular media like music videos and online video games. Although the Internet offers countless opportunities for Americans to connect, it has also provided violent extremists with access to new audiences and instruments for radicalization.”


I have to say that I do not see any of this supremacist or sovereign citizen violence nor hear word of it in the news.

[lI]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dovid_Katz
Dovid Katz: Baltic Project to Delete the Holocaust from European History. Observations from Lithuania, Zwölfter Vortrag der achten Herbert-Berman-Gedenkreihe, gehalten Jerusalem 23. Juni 2009


„including delegitimization of the anti-Nazi resistance (resulting most recently in prosecutorial campaigns against Holocaust survivors who resisted); delegitimization of the Wiesenthal Center and efforts to bring Nazi war criminals to justice; extreme embellishment of Jewish participation in Soviet rule; redefinition by law of the word 'genocide'; provocation of anti-Semitic moods centered on local Jews and Holocaust survivors; marginalization of valiant local non-Jewish champions of truth-telling, and their replacement by lavishly sponsored 'double genocide' commissions, research centers and museums.“

Katz is deranged. It's not Neo-Nazis who are trying to push through some redefinition. Lithuania's Constitutional Court expanded the definition of genocide to reflect Lithuania's reality, it previously meant:

"Actions by which it is intended to partially or completely anihilate some particular national, ethnic, racial or religious group of people"

and was changed to:

"Actions by which it is intended to partially or completely anihilate some particular national, ethnic, racial, religious, social or political group of people"

The details are mentioned in an article about a Jewish man who was convicted for having collaborated with Soviets in the killings of Lithuanian Forrest Brothers:
http://www.delfi.lt/news/daily/law/k....d?id=58861945

The rest of Katz's statement is just as deranged. He talks about the "delegitimization of the anti-Nazi resistance (resulting most recently in prosecutorial campaigns against Holocaust survivors who resisted)" when in reality it is the Holocaust survivors who, while "resisting Soviets", participated in massacres of civilians like the Koniuchy one that are persecuted in courts.

I'm wondering what Katz means by "redefinition by law of the word genocide". I'm asking because in Lithuania there is a genocide commemoration day in honour of the Prussian-Lithuanian ethnic group who were Germans:

spalio 16-oji – Mažosios Lietuvos gyventojų genocido diena

The statement about October 16th being a genocide commemoration day in honour of the Prussian-Lithuanian ethnic group who were Germans is incorrect. That day is in honour of the nationals of Lithuania Minor regardless of whether they were Germans, Lithuanians or whoever else - as you probably know yourself, the perpetrators of that genocide were not targeting only Germans in that area but all its inhabitants.

[Skomand]

The statement about October 16th being a genocide commemoration day in honour of the Prussian-Lithuanian ethnic group who were Germans is incorrect. That day is in honour of the nationals of Lithuania Minor regardless of whether they were Germans, Lithuanians or whoever else - as you probably know yourself, the perpetrators of that genocide were not targeting only Germans in that area but all its inhabitants.

This would be in line with what Landsbergis said in an interview.

Landsbergis: "Warum erinnert Ihr Deutschen Euch nicht daran, daß zum Beispiel die "Befreiung" Ostpreußens mit der fast vollständigen Vertreibung beziehungsweise Auslöschung seiner Bevölkerung einherging? Die Deutschen in den von den Sowjets eroberten Gebieten sind Opfer eines Völkermords geworden - wie übrigens auch die in Ostpreußen lebenden Litauer, aber das war natürlich nur eine Minderheit. Seltsamerweise gibt es heute in Deutschland kein Bewußtsein für diesen Genozid. Die Deutschen wissen vom Völkermord an den Juden, den Indianern, den Armeniern, aber nichts von dem an ihnen verübten."