Reasons for "extreme" East European nationalism here on TA and elsewhere

[Acquisitor]

I got this answer from a member in another topic and made me think, here is what SILNI wrote:

You don't believe that there patriotism left in slavs , do you? I can assure you that you are mistaken. Nationalism is on the rise in every slavic country. In fact slavic countries are strongholds of nationalism in europe nowdays. Economy is bad I admit , but we do not lack radicalism , nationalism and what is most important hatred toward enemy. Do not deceive yourself. Slavs are not West. We are not dead yet.

The way I see it: nationalism (not to be confused with patriotism) is a trait which is typical for mostly poor people (in this cases countries, since clearly all East European countries are poor, let's not fool ourselves here). In my opinion nationalism is a psychological defense mechanism against the reality, in this case reality being that Eastern Europe is WAY less developed than Western Europe. In this particular answer nationalism being a defense mechanism is particularly obvious in the last sentence "Slavs are not West, we are not dead yet".

So what's the reason for East European nationalism, is it really self deceit ? "we are poor, we are way less developed, but if we keep telling each how great we all are, we will feel better about ourselves despite of our countries being underdeveloped and poor" ?

[Virtuous]

Nationalism will keep most East Euro countries protected from multiculturalism.

[Acquisitor]

Nationalism will keep most East Euro countries protected from multiculturalism.

No it wont, Russia is not really poor thanks to the oil bubble, and despite the nationalism it's being overran by central Asians.

[Permafrost]

Well the Germans and the Austrians here are also big time nationalists, so I fail to see the causality between being poor and being a nationalist.

It just takes different forms in Western and Eastern Europe, maybe.

[Acquisitor]

Well the Germans and the Austrians here are also big time nationalists, so I fail to see the causality between being poor and being a nationalist.

It just takes different forms in Western and Eastern Europe, maybe.

Most Germans and Austrians nationalists are delinquents, while Eastern Europeans seen here are typical East Europeans.

And it is a matter of poverty: look at the collapse of Greece and it's fascist party's sudden rise, look at poverty Germany after world war 2 and the rise of nationalism.

[Virtuous]

No it wont, Russia is not really poor thanks to the oil bubble, and despite the nationalism it's being overran by central Asians.

Underline 'most'. Russia is huge, it aint easy to keep such a border under control.

[Veneficus]

I got this answer from a member in another topic and made me think, here is what SILNI wrote:



The way I see it: nationalism (not to be confused with patriotism) is a trait which is typical for mostly poor people (in this cases countries, since clearly all East European countries are poor, let's not fool ourselves here). In my opinion nationalism is a psychological defense mechanism against the reality, in this case reality being that Eastern Europe is WAY less developed than Western Europe. In this particular answer nationalism being a defense mechanism is particularly obvious in the last sentence "Slavs are not West, we are not dead yet".

So what's the reason for East European nationalism, is it really self deceit ? "we are poor, we are way less developed, but if we keep telling each how great we all are, we will feel better about ourselves despite of our countries being underdeveloped and poor" ?

Yes you are right, they have to learn how to be more cosmopolitans
Like Israel for example.
Wait, there is something wrong here .

[Lemon Kush]

I got this answer from a member in another topic and made me think, here is what SILNI wrote:



The way I see it: nationalism (not to be confused with patriotism) is a trait which is typical for mostly poor people (in this cases countries, since clearly all East European countries are poor, let's not fool ourselves here). In my opinion nationalism is a psychological defense mechanism against the reality, in this case reality being that Eastern Europe is WAY less developed than Western Europe. In this particular answer nationalism being a defense mechanism is particularly obvious in the last sentence "Slavs are not West, we are not dead yet".

So what's the reason for East European nationalism, is it really self deceit ? "we are poor, we are way less developed, but if we keep telling each how great we all are, we will feel better about ourselves despite of our countries being underdeveloped and poor" ?

Yeah we can be as nationalist as we want because unlike jews we actually have our own nation(s).

[Nihtgenga]

There are more poor nationalist than rich because there are more poor people than rich. Also rich people are probably more likely to push globalism as a means of increasing their own wealth. It is nothing to be proud of when you have sold your own people out to make a buck.

[Acquisitor]

There are more poor nationalist than rich because there are more poor people than rich. Also rich people are probably more likely to push globalism as a means of increasing their own wealth. It is nothing to be proud of when you have sold your own people out to make a buck.

I think there is also a hidden inferiority complex involved, since subconsciously people understand that their country's poverty is the fault of their nations.

I know quite many Belgians irl, and not a single one is a nationalist, (sure there must be some but I dont know any).