Turkmen from ancient Caucasoid to Mongoloid-Caucasoid DNA

[ButlerKing]

Damn these evil Turkic Mongoloid invasion

Here what ancient Gonur Depe people look like, different from modern Turkmen because of their Turkic heritage.



Now today




Look at the people, how can Turkmen claim their the same people as Gonur depe?

Turkmen from Merv and Gonur depe






What was once Gonur Depe now longer belong to the same people

[ButlerKing]

Their culture was quite advance but it's too bad it can't be considered Turkmen because they were Iranic, full Caucasoid and pure West Eurasian.

Perhaps only a Just few Turkmen were able retained their ancient physical appearance of this advance culture.

[ButlerKing]

[ButlerKing]

[Onur]

Butlerking the Armenian, your Turkic obsession slowly becoming an unhealthy hobby for your psychology but i just wanted to indicate a contradiction of yours here;

You kept saying that the Turks was just few invaders who subjugated the masses of Indo-Aryans and forcefully assimilated them in unknown time in the past and by unknown methods(!). Tough you contradict yourself here by saying that;

Here what ancient Gonur Depe people look like, different from modern Turkmen because of their Turkic heritage.

If the Turks was just few people then why they are different from the antique peoples today?

[ButlerKing]

Butlerking the Armenian, your Turkic obsession slowly becoming an unhealthy hobby for your psychology but i just wanted to indicate a contradiction of yours here;

You kept saying that the Turks was just few invaders who subjugated the masses of Indo-Aryans and forcefully assimilated them in unknown time in the past and by unknown methods(!). Tough you contradict yourself here by saying that




If the Turks was just few people then why they are different from the antique peoples today?

I didn't contradict anything and I'm not Armenian so stop saying that please. You got it wrong I didn't say they were a few but they are a minority who had mixed with ancient Iranic people. Unknown methods? obviously turkification and cultural assimilation and intermarriage was the Key.

[Partizan]

It is even not sure if first Turkic people were Mongoloid anyway... Mario Alinei claims that Turkic urheimat is Urals. Botai culture might be one of earliest Turkic ones:



Cumans, Khazars, (first) Kyrgyzes and even some Göktürks(Mu-kan Khagan for example) were described with Caucasoid features.

[ButlerKing]

It is even not sure if first Turkic people were Mongoloid anyway... Mario Alinei claims that Turkic urheimat is Urals. Botai culture might be one of earliest Turkic ones:



Cumans, Khazars, (first) Kyrgyzes and even some Göktürks(Mu-kan Khagan for example) were described with Caucasoid features.

How would you know they were described with Caucasoid features just because they had description like long nose or big eyes which is common in Central Asian mix Mongoloid hybrids anyway let alone mix Caucasoid hybrids. The idea they were Caucasoid have long been destroyed. From racial anthropology, the Oghuz were Mongoloid, the Cumans, Kyrgyz mostly Caucasoid with some mongoloid admixture and Khazar had a some Mongoloid and some Caucasoid people.


The problem is some people thinking they have to be either Mongoloid or Caucasoid when in fact we all know they were mixed that means they can look both either ways. When these people were described with Caucasoid features they obviously don't mean people who look like Turkey, Middle easterner or European, they would have mean't partial caucasoid features like modern Kazakhs, Uyghurs ect


What would the Mongoloid ( Korean or Chinese ) have said when they saw Turks who look like this?





From a genetic point, Uyghurs are 50% East Asian and 50% Caucasoid, so any Caucasoid features in them would have bored out from their hybrid DNA genes not because they were Caucasoid.

[ButlerKing]

A good example, half Korean/half Canadian actor bore strong Caucasoid features but is really 50% Korean/East Asian, it happens many times, sometimes Caucasoid genes can dominate. So in others words there is really absolutely no reason to believe that any Caucasoid description of Turks is based on Caucasoid people and not on mix people.

Clearly mixed just by looking at his phenotypes.

[riverman]

How would you know they were described with Caucasoid features just because they had description like long nose or big eyes which is common in Central Asian mix Mongoloid hybrids anyway let alone mix Caucasoid hybrids. The idea they were Caucasoid have long been destroyed. From racial anthropology, the Oghuz were Mongoloid, the Cumans, Kyrgyz mostly Caucasoid with some mongoloid admixture and Khazar had a some Mongoloid and some Caucasoid people.


The problem is some people thinking they have to be either Mongoloid or Caucasoid when in fact we all know they were mixed that means they can look both either ways. When these people were described with Caucasoid features they obviously don't mean people who look like Turkey, Middle easterner or European, they would have mean't partial caucasoid features like modern Kazakhs, Uyghurs ect

That isn't accurate, chief. Kazakhs and Uyghurs are not only different from each other but different from the other west Asian groups. I agree that they were "mixed" lol but you can't assume they looked like other populations.