Proof that Russians are more Turanic than Turks

[RussiaPrussia]

I know some people wont like it, both from the slavic spectrum who believe in Slavism seeing russia as the draft horse while also arguing that russians are pure nordic (which is still true but in a different way).

As well as from the turkic spectrum who believing in their great turanic worldview where turkey is superman who wants to free altaic and uralic people from russia.

but the truth needs to be said. Russia is more turanic than turkey as well as central asia. As we all know turkic people mixed allot throught of history, if you look at turkey and central asians they all heavily mixed to the local population.

You can see how divers the diagrams are in central asia and turkey.


While other turkic people from the far east like yakuts who never moved out and always stayed in the far east unlike the turkish tribes in turkey and central asia look more similar with their purple color. The purple color is halogroup N. Russia has the same amount halogroup N like tatarians and not far away from other turkic people in the far east.

If you look at halogroup N you can see how turanic it looks like it covers all turanic countries but also heavily central russia.


and now if you look at turkic people and altaic people



and at russians and other people from russia



If thats not enough we can also look at numbers you can see that russians have more halogroup n than bashkirs while turkey has less than belarus.


Like i said turks moved out and conquered while yakuts and other turks stayed where they were.


Russians are slavic but genetically there is no deny they are at least half uralic, you could argue we are kind of a mestizo people being half slavs and half uralics with some other extra mixture from mongolians and turkic invaders, baltics and russians are almost the same even for estonia which speaks uralic.


And a lot of people argued that as well like historians like Duchiński although hes an obvious russophob so the creation of the rus empire by polish or ukrainian alone can be questioned in first place as nowgorod was always influenced strongly by uralics as halogroup N suggests. However it has some truth in it that ukrainians and russians are different.

http://austereinsomniac.info/blog/20...ngoloids.html?

According to Duchiñski, Aryan Europe extends as far as the Dnieper valley. This European sphere includes the Ukraine (to which he consistently applied the historical name of Rus'), Belorussia, Lithuania, the Baltic provinces, the region of Smolensk, and the territory of the former republic of Great Novgorod. Farther east lies the alien Turanian world, which corresponds geographically with the Volga River valley. Duchiñski strenuously denied the Slavic character of the Russian people: "The Muscovites are neither Slavs nor Christians in the spirit of the [true] Slavs and other Indo-European Christians. They are nomads until this day, and they will remain nomads forever." He maintained that the Muscovites are in essence more related to the Chinese than to their Ukrainian and Belorussian neighbors*. Inversely, the latter are closer to the Irish and the Portuguese, or to the European settlers in the Americas, than to the Muscovites.

*i told you

the map of the first kingdom the ruthenia or kievan rus already suggest that this people will eventually move eastwards as they cover uralic territory. And it suggest thats slavs have mixed with uralics.


http://dienekes.blogspot.de/2005/06/...-russians.html

Multidimensional scaling analysis based on pairwise F(ST) values between mtDNA HVSI sequences in Russians compared to other European populations revealed a considerable heterogeneity of Russian populations; populations from the southern and western parts of Russia are separated from eastern and northern populations. Meanwhile, the multidimensional scaling analysis based on Y-chromosome haplogroup F(ST) values demonstrates that the Russian gene pool is close to central-eastern European populations, with a much higher similarity to the Baltic and Finno-Ugric male pools from northern European Russia. This discrepancy in the depth of penetration of mtDNA and Y-chromosome lineages characteristic for the most southwestern Russian populations into the east and north of eastern Europe appears to indicate that Russian colonization of the northeastern territories might have been accomplished mainly by males rather than by females.

So this is how turks will probably now react to my facts above

-Now you will say uralic people dont count as turanic. So why the hell are turanic concepts from turks expanding all from huangary as well all other uralic people up to even including mongols, koreans and even japanese? But not russians?

-You will also now say that russians dont speak uralic therefor they cant be turanic. But this is very nonsen imo. Are egyptians not egyptians anymore? For speaking arabic and practicing islam? This also doesnt work and when it comes to genetics vs language, i am sure everyone would choose genetics over language in this kind of things.

-The third most reasonable response would be not including anyone but turkic people but would brake up altaic and uralic connection making whole turanism not so turanistic anymore. Even just breaking up uralics would hurt this ideolody as attila the hunn was probably uralic. And there is still halogroup N left which yakuts have more than turks.

Russians are obviously the most asian people in europe not only culturally but also genetically, just look at russian teriotory it covers all from central russia up to the far east, and it hold this teriotory longer than both Attilas and Genghis kahns empires did, which are all history now. I mean isnt that turanic enough?? It just proves that turanism is nothing more than an ideology to justify turkish ambitions against russia nothing more.

This is what a chinese said about it in a different forum when i pointed this out

Russian are the new northern nomads after those altaic people，strong willed，aggressive，greedy and stubborn.They are the true successors of the mighty mongol empire.We have learned a lot things from them.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/china-f...ians-2.html#20


I would like to say that russians shouldnt be ashamed off to be half uralic, its simple who we are. This is what makes us different. We should rather embrace our asian background.



And its a lot easier to argue with people who accuse us of colonialism because like i said we are the people who we control in asia, its in our genetics. I am also even more disappointed by mongols not only did they killed and plunder russians but they also killed in fact their own turanic brothers giving us even more justification for our presence in asia.

We are culturally and genetically also an asian Nation and we shouldnt reject it especially in times when the EU is surrounding russia and cutting it off from europe, it would be better orientating towards asian integration to countries like japan, korea and china without giving up our european heritage and presence in asia of course. But neither should people say we are not european and we are not white as there are obvious facts for that question as well.

[GodAmongMen]

Do I look T00ranic to you?

I was classified as Nordid

[Arbërori]

[Hayalet]

While other turkic people from the far east like yakuts who never moved out and always stayed in the far east unlike the turkish tribes in turkey and central asia

You fail, son:

Yakuts originally lived around Olkhon and the region of Lake Baikal. In the 13th century, they migrated to the basins of the Middle Lena, the Aldan and Vilyuy rivers under the pressure of the rising Mongols.

[RussiaPrussia]

I would like to note i am still pro slavic and support Slavism but there are more slavic nations like serbia or poland which should be looked up to as being ideal slavs. Russians get to much credit i must admit.

You fail, son:

baikal is still far east, its sure not all up to central asia and anatolia to change their original genetics that much.

[Arbërori]

I would like to note i am still pro slavic and support Slavism but there are more slavic nations like serbia or poland which should be looked up to as being ideal slavs. Russians get to much credit i must admit.

So you're half-mongrel?

[Vesuvian Sky]

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[RussiaPrussia]

So you're half-mongrel?

who has blue eyes

[Arbërori]

who has blue eyes

Do you look like this?

[RussiaPrussia]

Do you look like this?

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