Proof that Russians are more Turanic than Turks

[RussiaPrussia]

yes..now start learning Turk language and culture!

haha you should rather learn russian, its what Genghis would have wanted

[Austrvegr]

Nope, it is just due to a wrong methodology which counts Sakas as Iranic.

Sakas are counted as Iranic by science. Science is what subhumans are not capable of.

By Turkic Ashina dynasty instead.

By Jews who kept the Ashina dynasty their prisoners.

Nope, DNA of Warrior Women in Pokrovka Kurgans match more with Kazakhs from Western Mongolia:

You are not Kazakhs from Western Mongolia by DNA. You are Kurdo-Armenians from Western Asia.

Learn more about your ancestors, lil Slavo-Mongol

I know my ancestors well, there are no Mongols. But I respect Mongols because they genocided lots of Turkics.

I hear Turks build monuments to Mongol khans. It is like Jews building monuments to Hitler, Goebbels and Himmler.

I doubt it, since even Lenin who taught Russians to create a modern state was Chuvash or Kerashen from his father's paternal side(and Kalmyk from father's maternal side )

There is no documentary evidence about Chuvash or Kerashen ancestry of Lenin.

All written sources describe them as blond.

Not a single one does.

If Baltacı would have a better decision, now you would be a Dhimmi in Ottoman Empire:

"If" does not count. If Turks were not corrupt faggy Middle Eastern greaseballs, they would not be Turks.

Only facts count, like the occupation of Istanbul in 1833 by Russian troops and turning the Ottoman Empire into a Russian colony till 1841.

Oh BTW, who ruled the soil you live before?

Turco-Mongol invaders from East Asia occupied South Russian steppes for some time, but we have slaughtered them and took our ancestral land back.

[Siberian Cold Breeze]

haha you should rather learn russian, its what Genghis would have wanted

Yes ,Chinggiz KHAN ,a Mongol would want me to learn a European language,Russian to be a Turk..
You made my day ,dear RuAsian .

[RussiaPrussia]

Yes ,Chinggiz KHAN ,a Mongol would want me to learn a European language,Russian to be a Turk..
You made my day ,dear RuAsian .

gingkhis never cared about mongolian culture he wanted to conquer the world, thats why he ally himself with turkic muslims because he didnt cared about altaics and budhism. He later ally himself with persians, chinese and russians who supported them. The ying dynstay was actually made by mongolians and manchus who united with chinese.

And the huns had all kind of slavic and germanic people. You cant conquer half the world and except staying your culture to be the same. He would see more of his traditions and warrior hood in russia than turkey for sure, if he would be still alive.

[Siberian Cold Breeze]

Tell these stories to your buddies..I am not buying..

[Hayalet]

I hear Turks build monuments to Mongol khans. It is like Jews building monuments to Hitler, Goebbels and Himmler.

And this is coming from a Russian who praises Nazi Germany and its Russian collaborators?

By the way, Khazars, strictly-speaking, weren't Jews, they were ethnic Turks who professed Judaism. If you want to see a Jewish hegemony on goyim, you should take a look at the Soviet Russia. At least according to the Russian nationalist narrative. Not that Russians were faring any better in the imperial era; they were living under monarchs of foreign origins and about half of the population were serfs until the mid 19th century. No wonder the Russian mood is considered melancholic and not at all übermensch-ish. Their history is one big series of victimhood.

[Pure ja]

lol? stop lieng or to be so ignorant about european history, south slavs like bulgarians and serbs baptized long before russians or polish.

How is any of that relevant to the discussion at hand? Bulgarians and serbs are orthodox as well.

And no, you werent protestant to begin with.

There is debate on which christian branch reached Estonia first, but there is no question that the first religous divide between the neighbouring finnic peoples was caused by the orthodox religion.

As to christianity, the first dominant christianity branch in Estonia Proper (excluding Seto land) was catholic, later followed by reformationary lutheran.

All uralics were pagans until the 16th century same for baltics.

By that logic, estonians and a lot of uralics are still pagans. Estonians score the lowest level of belief among christian nations (state nations) - I think it was just 15%.

And yeah many uralics in the rus did adopted the russian language and mixed with slavs, and they did it for a reason because it was the more advanced culture and language having also a script unlike the uralic languages at the time.

By "more advanced" you mean slavery and empire and collecting taxes for nothing in return.
If instead you would consider local direct democracy, then finnic peoples were much more advanced than slavs.

As to written language, at least one writing has been discovered written in karelian language.
Some estonians were certainly literate, that is evident from placenames, but it was not a common knowledge (besides runic calendars, which were common knowledge).

Every nation has a free will to choose any writing system they like to, the problem with the spread of the cyrillic to finno-ugric lands was that it was at least partially a forced process.

[Proto-Shaman]

... dirty East Asians who the original Turkics were or dirty West Asians who the actual Turks are.

You have much to learn my child

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karasuk_culture
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tashtyk_culture

Aryans are just corrupted Türanics who mixed with churki 4,000 BC.

This Türanic Übermensch shit goes around like cancer among some slavic members in this forum. Something is seriously going wrong here

Russians are more Turanic than Turanics

Take your vodka, then have a short look at this map, maybe then it could work

R1a=Proto-Turkic haplogroup

That would mean greasy Middle Easterners calling themselves Turks are not Turkic.

Austrvegr, R1a is ONE OF the Proto-Turkic haplogroups.

BTW, the title "khagan" like all of the "Turkic" titles is of Iranic origin, as subhuman Turkics were taught to rule a state by their Divine Nordic Aryan Iranic White Sahibs.

Ashina was a dynasty of Iranic

Actually the Ashina Clan (also called Türk) was of Saka Turkic, Wusun Turkic, Dingling Turkic and Xiongnu-Tiele Turkic origin. Its OUR ancient female Wolf legend, you know.

The name Ashina comes from ... akhshaena = blue.

Actually this is just a theory. Beside this, asina is a finno-ugrian word for "blue", not Iranic. The ultimate origin is from Turkic As-Ena, "Mother of the Az People".

A Mongol theory is also existent:

"Sena or Asena in Turkish means a wolf. On turning to the Mongol legend about their wolf ancestor it tells us he was called Burtechino. While chino means wolf Burte means blue and secondarily celestial or divine ; Burtechino therefore means the divine wolf."

Source: Journal of the Royal Asiatic Society of Great Britain and Ireland, Vol. 1, Cambridge University Press for the Royal Asiatic Society, p.660
Well, you see: no Iranics here. Persians had no Wolf legend

Furthermore:

"Türk, or Türküt, refers to a state of Asina clan (of Tiele tribe by ancestral lineage) who broke away from the control of the Rouran, another Türkish-speaking nomadic state, in 552."

Sources: Rachel Lung, Interpreters in Early Imperial China, John Benjamins Publishing Company, 2011, S.48 / Duan: "Dingling, Gaoju and Tiele", 1988, S.39-41

Also watch up: Croatian Krupa family found among others to be part of the old Turkic dynasty

All written sources describe them as blond.

Not a single one does.

Indeed, all sources either of eastern or western origin agree that Kumans were blond with brown hair.

"Unlike other Semitic tribes who had dark skin and eyes, the Cumans were fair skinned, blond, and blue-eyed;..."

Source: Ion Grumeza, The Roots of Balkanization: Eastern Europe C.E. 500-1500, University Press of America, 2010, p.36

"The Cumans' characteristic blonde hair and blue eyes gave them their name in Russian and German, both of which meant 'yellow'."

Source: David Nicolle, Angus McBride: Hungary and the Fall of Eastern Europe 1000-1568, Osprey Publishing, 1988, p.43

"In Church Slavonic sources they were known as Polovtsi ('blond-, yellow-haired'), while in Latin they were referred to as 'Cumans.' The former name was given as Palocz in Magyar, and Valwen in Germanic." (Source)

Hungarian King Ladislaus I of Hungary (left) embracing a Cuman warrior (right):


Cuman depictions:



Information beside: Kipchak tribes essentially were described as blondies. In all sources, from China to Africa, from Africa to Europe. Look at my avatar, we still live on


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[Austrvegr]

Indeed, all sources either of eastern or western origin agree that Kumans were blond with brown hair.

"Unlike other Semitic tribes who had dark skin and eyes, the Cumans were fair skinned, blond, and blue-eyed;..."

Source: Ion Grumeza, The Roots of Balkanization: Eastern Europe C.E. 500-1500, University Press of America, 2010, p.36

"The Cumans' characteristic blonde hair and blue eyes gave them their name in Russian and German, both of which meant 'yellow'."

Source: David Nicolle, Angus McBride: Hungary and the Fall of Eastern Europe 1000-1568, Osprey Publishing, 1988, p.43

"In Church Slavonic sources they were known as Polovtsi ('blond-, yellow-haired'), while in Latin they were referred to as 'Cumans.' The former name was given as Palocz in Magyar, and Valwen in Germanic." (Source)

Information beside: Kipchak tribes essentially were described as blondies. In all sources, from China to Africa, from Africa to Europe. Look at my avatar, we still live on

Give me at least ONE source describing Cumans as blond (I mean medieval SOURCE, not modern-day GUESSWORK based on a fanciful etymology of their name).

The Slavic name Polovtsy comes from polost', (tree) cavity, and is a direct translation of the original Turkic name Kipchak, which has as its source the legend of Kipchaks' descent from a boy found in a tree cavity.

[Austrvegr]

By the way, Khazars, strictly-speaking, weren't Jews, they were ethnic Turks who professed Judaism.

The ruling class was Jewish by origin including the bek dynasty who were the real masters.

By the way, the early Seljuks were subjects of Khazar Jews and were forced by them to adopt Judaism, that is why they had Jewish names like Yunus, Israil, Mikail and Musa. If Russians had not destroyed the Jewish Khazaria, Turkey would be a Judaic country.

If you want to see a Jewish hegemony on goyim, you should take a look at the Soviet Russia. At least according to the Russian nationalist narrative. Not that Russians were faring any better in the imperial era; they were living under monarchs of foreign origins

All European monarchs had mixed origin because of centuries of dynastic marriages. Germany was ruled by mixed Germanic-Slavic dynasties.

and about half of the population were serfs until the mid 19th century. No wonder the Russian mood is considered melancholic and not at all übermensch-ish.

Melancholic = Nordic = übermensch-ish.

Their history is one big series of victimhood.

Then the history of Turkics is one big series of victimhood at the hands of victims, considering how much you have suffered at our hands.