Are Slavs a lost East Germanic Tribe like Goths, Burgundians and Vandals were?

[Onur]

And where were slavs before the huns and during the huns?? We know nothing about them in that period.

because slavs didn't even exist as a group of people back then.

Imho, slavs are an invented group of people by the eastern Romans/Byzantines, who aroused as a group of people shortly before their christianization and the missionary efforts of Cyril&Methodious. Slavs have no proper history before christianity for the very same reason, simply because their identity have been invented by the Byzantines.

Quite a few medieval historians supports this idea, including the scholars like Florin Curta, Victor Spinei.

[RussiaPrussia]

because slavs didn't even exist as a group of people back then.

Imho, slavs are an invented group of people by the eastern Romans/Byzantines, who aroused as a group of people shortly before their christianization and the missionary efforts of Cyril&Methodious. Slavs have no proper history before christianity for the very same reason, simply because their identity have been invented by the Byzantines.

Quite a few medieval historians supports this idea, including the scholars like Florin Curta, Victor Spinei.

slavs are still slavs, i mean lets say they were really east germans. Them breaking up into baltics and slavics and again into 3 different slavic groups makes them enough to be not invented but truly an own tribe of its own.

And even goths and vandals where nothing like any germans, the other germans were more peaceful cooperating with huns and romans but the eastern germanic tribes straight fought against them and even invaded the roman empire going all that far until north africa to find a home.

It seems very likekly that slavs would be related to the vandals, as its the most unknown germanic people and this map suggests it



the Vandilii were the vandals and its similar to the baltic slavic tribe the venedi not only in name but location.




imo turks an invented people, if you think about it you never called that yourself until atatürk came into power. You called yourself Osmans back then.

[Jarl]

slavs are still slavs,

No. We were invented!



And cut your Vandal bullshit plz... your Russian granpa shouldve given you a hefty kick in the buttocks for this nonsense.

[Scholarios]

Vandals sounds like Veneti and they inhabited the same areas as the Wends which also sounds quite similar. However, the academic consensus is that they spoke an East Germanic language:

There is no record left of a text in the Vandalic language long enough to contain a group of phrases forming at least one complete sentence. The unfortunate circumstance that no written text in Vandalic has survived (if this language was ever actually written down) has certainly not helped draw the attention and interest of scholars over the years toward the language of the Vandals. And, above all, it has surely prevented our acquisition of sufficient knowledge of this language, which however must have belonged, like Gothic, to the East Germanic group.

http://www.academia.edu/691311/Traci...of_the_Vandals

I don't know though

[derLowe]

No. We were invented!



And cut your Vandal bullshit plz... your Russian granpa shouldve given you a hefty kick in the buttocks for this nonsense.

If a group identity has to be maintained through violence than it will not be viable in the long run.

Why are you so threatened by a bit of divergent thinking?

[rashka]

Firstly, we should be open to ALL theories. They all sound interesting and nothing is too outrageous that it can't hold any clues. Just look at the name Suebi on the map. It sounds like Srbi. Don't forget that R can also act like a vowel. The problem is we just don't know what really happened but we see evidence of the different turns in history. For example as mentioned above some tribes have just disappeared at some points in time.

The Vandals disappeared after the year 534 and the last of them were recorded as being in Constantinople (today's Istanbul). Yet that was the period when there were large scale slavic settlements made in the Balkans.

The similarity in names of Venedi and Vandali also impressed me. It also reminds me of the Byzantine term for slavs: Sklavenoi.

What is very interesting is that in the Serbian (and Croatian) language the word 'Van' means out/beyond, 'Vani' means outside/outdoors. I don't think any other Slavic language uses that term.

[riverman]

because slavs didn't even exist as a group of people back then.

Imho, slavs are an invented group of people by the eastern Romans/Byzantines, who aroused as a group of people shortly before their christianization and the missionary efforts of Cyril&Methodious. Slavs have no proper history before christianity for the very same reason, simply because their identity have been invented by the Byzantines.

Quite a few medieval historians supports this idea, including the scholars like Florin Curta, Victor Spinei.

Absolutely stupid. Many traditions of "Slavic" peoples predate Christianity. read a book or something

[arcticwolf]

RussiaPrussia, I woke up this morning, the weather is beautiful as it always is in Southern California, got my coffee, got my smoke, went to gas station to tank up, was looking forward to going to the beach to relax and get some work done, packed my Mac, then checked the news on my tablet, clicked to check what's up with the TA crowd and I saw this thread.

WTF?

Are you on drugs? LOL

You know I've just retired from socializing, right? Why did you force me to come back?

No, we are not any Germans east, west, south, north or any other, no relation whatsoever!

Dude, I understand your confusion, you are neither full Slav, nor Germanic but the full bloods don't share your doubts and weird theories.

That's why I am against mixed metaethnicity marriages, because their posterity has identity crisis.

Onur I like you but STFU! Don't spout your even weirder theories about Slavs! Get a fucking hobby! LoL

I am going back to my precious retirement, please don't make me come back!

Sayonara.

[Twistedmind]

Articwolf I tought you left TA? (I have nothing to say on Topic, really)

[arcticwolf]

Articwolf I tought you left TA? (I have nothing to say on Topic, really)

Bro I had to log back in to answer your question.

I am retired from all socializing, I need to work on my spiritual side.

This is just an exception, consider my black ass gone!

Defending Slavdom is up to you my Slavic brother. You have Mordid, oops XX to back you up. lol

I am outta here! Off to the beach.

Love to all Slavs! Slavic Power!

And for the very last time!

Traditional Slavic good bye ..... Sayonara!