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    Default Armenian terror group ASALA and Palestinian Arab relations

    Burak Bekdil is a Turkish Sephardi jew columnist in the Hurriyet Daily News. He hates AKP and Erdogan but he mostly writes as if everyone in Turkey supposedly supports AKP while clearly this is not the case. He also presents zealous AKP supporters as if they are the majority of Turkish people.

    He talks about Armenian terror group ASALA`s close friendship with Palestinian Arab terror groups here;

    What the collective Turkish memory refuses to recall
    We have no means to know what box office figures the popular film “Valley of the Wolves: Palestine” would have produced had it been shot in the year 1982, but judging from today’s powerful “Palestine fetish,” it seems that the Turks’ collective (and selective) memory refuses to recall the events of 1975-1982.

    Why Turks wholeheartedly subscribe to the Palestinian cause although most of them cannot point the Palestinian territories out on a map is a near-mystery. Why do the Turks, when they take to the streets for political demonstrations, just carry placards written in Turkish but in the case of Palestine the protest lingua franca suddenly converts to Arabic and Quranic script is another near-mystery. Perhaps the latter near-mystery explains the former.

    At its heyday, the Armenian Secret Army for the Liberation of Armenia (ASALA) killed 46 people and injured 299 in 84 incidents of attacks and assassination. Of the victims, 36 were Turkish diplomats.

    Historically, there is detailed evidence regarding ASALA’s connections with the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO), the darling of Turks since time immemorial. The evidence also produces ASALA’s irrefutable love affair with George Habash’s Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) and Naif Hawatme’s Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine (DFLP), two terrorist organizations devoted to the cause a majority of Turks wholeheartedly subscribe to. It is a well-documented fact that ASALA had established itself under the patronage of the PLO, with links also to Hamas’s present day rival Fatah and, in Lebanon, to the Lebanese Arab Army.

    ASALA’s headquarters were situated in Beirut, in an area controlled by the DFLP. ASALA members were trained under the aegis of Fatah’s men and camps, including a site at Hamuriah in Syria. The group, listed as a terrorist entity by the U.S., also had offices and bases in Tripoli, Damascus and South Yemen.

    The four ASALA militants who attacked the Turkish embassy on Sept. 24, 1981 were trained by the Palestinians. The squad which attacked Esenboga Airport in Ankara on Aug. 7, 1982, killing nine civilians and injuring 82, were trained at Hamuriah. The Palestinian organizations also assisted ASALA with weapons, sabotage materials, counterfeit passports and other logistics.

    There is so much detailed evidence for these links reminding one of the darker side of the moon that the curious reader could even read in detail how ASALA’s leader, Hagop Hagopyan (his nom de guerre), broke up with the PLO in 1982 and allied his organization with Abu Nidal, the anti-PLO leader responsible for much of anti-American terrorism.

    About three decades after this dark episode, every Turk remembers, with deep abhorrence, the days of ASALA. Many would mentally associate ASALA’s terrorism with “every living or dead Armenian,” and hence the collective hatred that shows itself in the cheerful April 2012 placard at the heart of Istanbul that read “You are all Armenians. You are all bastards!” Similarly, the murder of the Turkish-Armenian journalist Hrant Dink was perhaps a pathetic expression of the same hatred for ASALA.

    None of that is agreeable, but all of it is understandable. What, however, does not fit the entire picture is the Turks’ historic love affair with groups that evidently and substantially assisted ASALA in its attacks and assassinations of Turkish targets.

    Were the Turks happy that their Palestinian brothers helped ASALA kill Turks? Are they happy that their Palestinian brothers did so? How would they, with a thick lens of religion with which they view world affairs, explain Muslim brothers assisting Christian assassins for the deaths of Muslim Turks? A true love affair, it seems.

    Turkey does not have an ambassador to Israel and, according to news reports, it will soon have an ambassador to Palestine, the land of our brothers who, until less than three decades ago, were ASALA’s brothers in arms.

    March/13/2013

    http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/wha...&NewsCatID=398

    Bekdil only talks about the Arabs love affair with ASALA but Arabs supported all kinds of terrorism in Turkey in late 1970s. We know that the very first DHKP-C and PKK militants also got trained in Palestine and Arabs donated weapons and bombs to these terrorists.

    So, whats your opinion about this?

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    Araplarin allah belani versin. Vermis zaten. Arap marap'dan arkadas olmaz. Bize sahte musluman diyorlar zaten.

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    Those were odd bedfellows. According to Wikipedia, the ASALA dissolved in the early 1990s:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenia...ion_of_Armenia

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    Ayidan post, araptan dost olmaz,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoca View Post
    Araplarin allah belani versin. Vermis zaten. Arap marap'dan arkadas olmaz. Bize sahte musluman diyorlar zaten.
    I guess the Turks and Arabs are not friends. Would you consider the Palestinians as Arabs?

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    That's what I have been telling to anyone when the whole Israeli-Palestinian discussion is hot. Arabs and Iranians done more harm to Turkey than Jews or Israel ever could. Today while Iran is openly threatening Turkey, Arabs are being nothing more than burden under the so-called "religious brotherhood" banner which in fact more like a parasitic relationship unlike the Israeli-Turkish relations. What's more our government just closed their eyes to all of this and continued to fool people with fake tales. What's more, not only ASALA but PKK in their early times was trained by Palestinians:

    Several nations located in the Middle East have contributed to the funding, trailing, or support of the PKK and other Kurdish terrorist organizations during the past several years. Is this significant in light of Turkey's historical relationship with many of these nations as trading partners and potential allies or adversaries. In addition, some groups, such as the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), are suspected of supporting the PKK's move into the Bekaa Valley in 1982. Kurdish terrorlsts and other international groups have been trained by Palestinians who themselves were trained by Soviet personnel in Lebanon's Bekaa Valley in Syrian-controlled camps. The U. S. government has concluded that the PKK and other Kurdish groups have been supported by Syria, which has allowed the PKK to maintain a headquarters in Damascus, as well as by Iran, Iraq, and Libya.
    http://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/docs/studies3.htm

    While Israel helped us to capture Öcalan, supported us against Armenian diaspora fairlytales in U.S., supported Azerbaijan against Iran and Armenia and cooperated with us during natural disasters. I don't remember we having any incident with Jews in our history let alone a conflict or a war. We need to act realistic not dramatic.

    That being said, I'm not a great fan of Israel but if I had to choose between Arab nations, Iran, and Israel; I'd definetely choose Israel for cooperation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xajapa View Post
    I guess the Turks and Arabs are not friends. Would you consider the Palestinians as Arabs?
    Those are generalizations. There are tribes who stayed loyal to the Turks and tribes who betrayed Turks for money. And at the end those Arabs who betrayed us got betrayed by British and got punished with Israel as a state. But today Arab/Turkish relationship is improving since Arabs understand they made a mistake.

    But if you want to know what the ancestors of Palestinians did watch the movie Lawrence of Arabia. The truth is there. When Turks were defending the holy city against the crusaders during ww1, those Arabs joined the ranks of the crusaders. So today I'm supporter of Israel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ergenekon View Post
    While Israel helped us to capture Öcalan, supported us against Armenian diaspora fairlytales in U.S., supported Azerbaijan against Iran and Armenia and cooperated with us during natural disasters. I don't remember we having any incident with Jews in our history let alone a conflict or a war. We need to act realistic not dramatic.

    That being said, I'm not a great fan of Israel but if I had to choose between Arab nations, Iran, and Israel; I'd definetely choose Israel for cooperation.
    I am inline with you. We need to be realistic and logic dictates the Israel-Turkish friendship. Thats exactly why we never had any negative relations with them in the past 500+ years.

    I also wanted to add that the Sephardi jews was the one and only non-Turkish group in the Ottoman empire who didn't betray us during the destruction of it but they always supported us. There was a Turkish jew even among the few delegates of Lausanne peace conference and the very first scholar who wrote about Kemalism was a Turkish jew again, Munis Tekinalp.

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    Bu arada geçmişte böyleydi de, şimdi değişmiş falan değil. Şurayı okuyun bakın, Mavi Marmara`dan bir yıl sonra Filistin`in Hamas terroristi başbakanı BDP lideriyle geçen sene görüştüğünde ne demiş;

    Gazze’deki Filistin Hükümeti’nin Başbakanı İsmail Haniye, BDP Genel Başkanı Selahattin Demirtaş ile Filistin ve Kürt sorunununun çözümünü konuştu. Haniye, Demirtaş’ı Kudüs’e davet ederken Kudüs’ü haçlı kuvvetlerinden alan Selahattin Eyyubi ile isim benzerliğine dikkat çekerek, latife yaptı ve “Kudüs yeni Selahaddin’ini bekliyor” dedi. Haniye görüşmede, “Diyarbakır’ın özgürlüğünü görmek isteriz” diye konuştu.

    Demirtaş, BDP olarak hükümete muhalefet ettiklerini, ancak Filistin konusunda gereken desteği verdiklerini belirtti. Haniye’nin “Ümit ediyoruz ki bütün haklarınızı elde edeceğiniz, kendi kimliğinizle yaşayacağınız günlere kavuşursunuz” yönünde değerlendirme yaptığı öğrenildi. Demirtaş, “Biz Filistin’ien özgürlüğünü görmek isteriz” deyince Haniye’de, “Biz de Diyarbakır’ın özgür olmasını görmek isteriz” diye karşılık verdi.

    http://siyaset.milliyet.com.tr/diyar...92/default.htm

    Bu da Filistin başkanı Mahmut Abbas`ın Mavi Marmara`dan birkaç ay sonra yaptığı Kıbrıs Rum devleti ziyareti;
    Rum basınının haberlerine göre, Hristofyas, Abbas'la görüşmesinden sonra yaptığı açıklamada, Filistin'in Rum halkının “mücadelesine” verdiği destekten ve Rum yönetiminin tezlerini İslam Konferansı Teşkilatı'nda (İKT) gündeme getirmesinden dolayı Mahmud Abbas'a teşekkür etti.

    Hristofyas, “Her iki tarafça uzlaşılan ilkeler temelinde, Filistin halkının cefasına son vermek ve Filistin'in kalbinde bulunduğu Orta Doğu sorununa barışçı bir çözüm getirmek için yeniden yaratıcı bir diyaloğun başlamasını istiyor ve bunun çok yakında başlayacağına inanıyoruz” dedi.

    AB içinde Filistinli “kardeşlerinin” davasını her zaman yapıcı şekilde desteklediğini ve desteklemeye devam edeceğini ifade eden Hristofyas, Güney Kıbrıs'ın kısa süre önce Ramallah'ta temsilcilik açma kararı aldığını, Rum tarafındaki Filistin temsilciliğinin seviyesinin de yükselmekte olduğunu kaydetti.

    Hristofyas, Filistin'le ekonomi, turizm ve eğitim alanlarında ikili anlaşmaların da çok yakında ilan edileceğini açıkladı.
    Mahmud Abbas da “Güney Kıbrıs'ın Filistin halkının haklarının yeniden tesisi, iki devletli bir çözüm çerçevesinde, başkenti Doğu Kudüs olacak bağımsız bir Filistin devleti kurulması mücadelesine verdiği istikrarlı destek için” Hristofyas'a teşekkür etti.

    “Güney Kıbrıs'ın, yol haritası ve Orta Doğu sorununun çözümüne yönelik Arap inisiyatifine verdiği desteğin, İsrail'le müzakere çabalarında ellerini çok büyük ölçüde güçlendirdiğini” kaydeden Abbas, “Filistin toprakları içinde, Ramallah'ta temsilcilik açma kararınız bizi ziyadesiyle memnun etti, aynı zamanda bize, aramızdaki ilişkileri daha da pekiştirme gücü verdi ve haklarımız için verdiğimiz mücadelenin siyasi çıtasını yükseltti” diye konuştu.


    HRİSTOFYAS'A DAVET
    Güney Kıbrıs'taki Filistin temsilciliğinin yükseltilmesinin, Filistin ile Güney Kıbrıs arasındaki iyi ilişkilerin göstergesi olduğunu ifade eden Abbas, Kıbrıs Rum yönetimi lideri Hristofyas'ı, “en kısa zamanda Filistin'e beklediğini” söyledi.


    RUM MECLİS BAŞKANI VE BAŞPİSKOPOSLA GÖRÜŞME
    Filistin Devlet Başkanı Abbas, Rum Meclisi Başkanı Marios Garoyan ve Rum Ortodoks Kilisesi Başpiskoposu Hrisostomos'la da ayrı ayrı görüştü.

    Garoyan, görüşmeden sonra yaptığı açıklamada, Abbas ile Kıbrıs sorununu, Orta Doğu'daki son durumu ve Filistinlerin Orta Doğu'da barışın sağlanması için yaptıkları çalışmaları ele aldıklarını belirtti.

    Başpiskopos Hrisostomos da görüşmede Filistinlerin en yakın zamanda kendi devletini kurulmaları dilediğinde bulunduğunu söyledi. Kıbrıs Rum Ortodoks Kilisesi'nin Filistinlere destek vermeye hazır olduğunu ifade eden Başpiskopos Hrisosotomos, “Filistin ve Kıbrıslı Rumların ortak mücadele verdiğini” savundu.

    http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/dunya/12041197.asp

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    PLO terrorists did not only train ASALA but also PKK militants in their terror camps located in Lebanon. The worshipping of Arabs causes the sweeping of many facts under the rug in Turkey for some reasons.
    Last edited by Böri; 08-26-2017 at 11:03 PM.

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