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    Quote Originally Posted by aa100 View Post
    hounestly, the area who called "iraqi kurdistan" are actually assyrian land....
    What cities like Arbil, founded by the Hurrians, are Assyrian land? Please... I am up for an Assyrian state but Assyrians aren't a majority anywhere in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurdo View Post
    What cities like Arbil, founded by the Hurrians, are Assyrian land? Please... I am up for an Assyrian state but Assyrians aren't a majority anywhere in the world.
    hurrian nation not exist anymore....and the assyrians should get their own state...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurdo View Post
    Nomadic lifestyle? You're describing both our ancestors.
    Well actually Kurdish pastoral nomadicism is different than rather warrior-styled Turkic nomadicism however Kardus seem to be more "Steppic" guys, like Turkic people.

    Arrow and Bow ranges? Still not convinced.
    You don't have to be

    Karluk tribe? Sounds similar, different etymology while Kardu has the same etymology as Kurd.
    Etymology of Kurd is still not something sure.

    So you're saying that official papers rule over everything else? Aha, I am a Dutch muslim then.
    Not only official papers despite they play a big role. The Netherlands has a multi-culti structure unlike unitary TR.

    Do you stalk me or something? I forgot about that and I had my own reasons. I only insulted once I was insulted, ever heard of "an eye for an eye" ?
    Well, I can show your earlier posts where you used to insult every Turk regularly

    Who promised us? Well, the west basically.

    Who supported us? No one
    Where Sheikh Said got his weapons from? Santa Claus?

    Thats why I said, a few adjustments, can't you read?
    Not "a few" honestly, giving 2/3 of modern Turkey to unrelated people... Bah...

    The Media says something so it must be true.

    Great logic
    Sorry, I know how Serap Eser's father cries in her grave, who I saw with my eyes. Not media only. Actually Turkish media represents Kurds as peace doves nowadays.

    The Rawadiya tribe who lived in Dvin (Ancient city in what is now Armenia) were attacked by the Seljuks. That is also when Saladins Paternal ancestors migrated to Tikrit, they moved because of this attack.


    Rawadiya is a Kurdish speaking tribe today but based on Saladin's family names etc. they were more like Turkic. Some Turkomans were Kurdified, e.g. Karakeçili.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yabgu View Post
    There is no ethnicity called "Anatolian", and no such thing as "Anatolian Greek genes" or "Armenoid genes".. It is a political rhetoric to cause identity erosion.. Eastern Huns are considered to be the ancestors of modern day Turks and they were a hybrid of Asiatic and Caucasian, but more dominantly Caucasian.. Hun was not an ethnicity itself, but a large tribal confederative structure.. That is why Turks already had a rich genetic pool before the full conquest of Anatolia region..

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    hurrian nation not exist anymore....and the assyrians should get their own state...
    Their descendants do, the Kurds and Armenians. Tell me, where will the Assyrian state be? They are not a majority in any city in the world.

    Well actually Kurdish pastoral nomadicism is different than rather warrior-styled Turkic nomadicism however Kardus seem to be more "Steppic" guys, like Turkic people.
    Tell me, what is not 'warrior style' or 'military style' like the Greeks described us, about this?



    You don't have to be
    Convince me.

    I'll take the Scots and the English as an example. The 'longbow' which is of English origin, is quite long as you see in the name. It was used to suppress rebellions in the mountains of Scotland and it was succesful. Where is the disadvantage?

    Etymology of Kurd is still not something sure.
    So what? Karluk and Karduchi has still completely different meanings.

    The Karluks (also Qarluqs, Qarluks, Karluqs, Old Turkic: Old Turkic letter OQ.svg Old Turkic letter L1.svg Old Turkic letter R1.svg Old Turkic letter Q.svg, Qarluq,[1] Persian: خَلُّخ (Khallokh), Arabic قارلوق "Qarluq"
    Old Turkic = Qarluq. pronouncing it already sounds very harsh. Karduchi is a very soft word.

    "Kar" means "snow", as in the name of the Kar Sea.
    Not mountains like you suggested.

    Not only official papers despite they play a big role. The Netherlands has a multi-culti structure unlike unitary TR.
    Still, if thats the case then I am 100% Dutch Muslim. I'm far from it.

    Well, I can show your earlier posts where you used to insult every Turk regularly
    Advise by Serok Ficus.

    Where Sheikh Said got his weapons from? Santa Claus?
    They were ex Hamidyan soldiers. Thats where they got it from.

    Not "a few" honestly, giving 2/3 of modern Turkey to unrelated people... Bah...
    I think you are reading the map wrong, most of Anatolia was going to be under Turkish control but with British, French and Italian influence like there was in Iraq. All of the proposed Kurdish territory were also going to have French or British influence.

    Sorry, I know how Serap Eser's father cries in her grave, who I saw with my eyes. Not media only. Actually Turkish media represents Kurds as peace doves nowadays.
    Sure...

    Rawadiya is a Kurdish speaking tribe today but based on Saladin's family names etc. they were more like Turkic. Some Turkomans were Kurdified, e.g. Karakeçili.
    Shirkuh is a Turkic name?

    Never heard of Karaceili btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoca View Post
    Maybe the minorities in the Netherlands should also have their ethnic states. Afterall, after couple of generations they will also become locals..
    Not gonna happen


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