Would a free Kurdistan not be to the benefit of Turkey?

[Hoca]

Yes, they deserve a country like other nations do. North Iraq could be a good start.

You should give a part of your country to the Kurds then

You didn't spill blood for your country any way. It was just handed to you. So you don't understand the value.

[Hevo]

You should give a part of your country to the Kurds then

You didn't spill blood for your country any way. It was just handed to you. So you don't understand the value.

Why should i? They are not even majority here and it's not their ethnic lands while North Iraq is. They don't have a country unlike many nations do. It's fair to me.

What do you mean i didn't spill blood for my country? How is this relevant anyway?

[denz]

It can be seen even WWII that most of the borders are changed without even strong resist. Generally, if it is created on the table, can be also changed on the table. But non of our border was drawn without war...

[Hoca]

Why should i? They are not even majority here and it's not their ethnic lands while North Iraq is. They don't have a country unlike many nations do. It's fair to me.

Turkey is not their ethnic land either. Iraq is their ethnic land of the Kurds. So I wouldn't mind if they want to establish a Kurdistan there. It has its benefits. Turkey can dumb all the PKK supports there (the ones that didn't leave Turkey)

What do you mean i didn't spill blood for my country? How is this relevant anyway?

If Americans didn't come to save you, you wouldn't have a country. So you don't know how it is to earn a country. Maybe the minorities in the Netherlands should also have their ethnic states. Afterall, after couple of generations they will also become locals..

[denz]

No, the talks is about expansion might be a federation including "Misak-i Milli" border ...

Greeks and bulgars might be angry about the map but anyway ...

[Hevo]

Turkey is not their ethnic land either. Iraq is their ethnic land of the Kurds. So I wouldn't mind if they want to establish a Kurdistan there. It has its benefits. Turkey can dumb all the PKK supports there (the ones that didn't leave Turkey)

That's an another discussion but i am glad that you agree with me that North Iraq is a good start. Thank you Hoca.

If Americans didn't come to save you, you wouldn't have a country. So you don't know how it is to earn a country. Maybe the minorities in the Netherlands should also have their ethnic states. Afterall, after couple of generations they will also become locals..

Actually, the Canadians,Brits, Americans and Dutch volunteers liberated the Netherlands together.
Yeah man, my ancestors were just some drinking beer and they wait until a few people gave them the Dutch Republic so they could live there without bloodshed or anything else. Man, you are either ignorant or just a troll.

[Hoca]

Actually, the Canadians,Brits, Americans and Dutch volunteers liberated the Netherlands together.
Yeah man, my ancestors were just some drinking beer and they wait until a few people gave them the Dutch Republic so they could live there without bloodshed or anything else. Man, you are either ignorant or just a troll.

Dutch volunteers? For which army? For the Waffen SS, not for liberation of the Netherlands.

Dutch volunteers for the liberation of the Netherlands were only a handful. Not worthy of mentioning. Maybe it is time to study your own history.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/23rd_SS...sion_Nederland

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nederlandsche_SS

[Hevo]

Dutch volunteers? For which army? For the Waffen SS, not for liberation of the Netherlands.

Dutch volunteers for the liberation of the Netherlands were only a handful. Not worthy of mentioning. Maybe it is time to study your own history.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_N...fantry_Brigade

Here you go.

[adsız]

No, the talks is about expansion might be a federation including "Misak-i Milli" border ...

Better one:

[Hoca]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_N...fantry_Brigade

Here you go.

I know this is a sensitive issue for you so I won't continue but Dutch resistance in the Netherlands was not big. They conquered Netherlands within couple of hours so to say and during the occupation, resistance was marginal. Actually there were a lot of Dutch who joined the ranks of the Nazi army and collaborated with the persecuted of Jews.