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    Turin Shroud mystery 'solved': Infrared tests show ancient cloth may NOT be a medieval fake after all... and could have been used to wrap Christ's body

    Infra red tests dated the cloth to some time between 300BC and 400AD

    The shroud will appear in a live TV broadcast on Saturday

    Just in time for Easter a new study has claimed that the Shroud of Turin is a not a medieval forgery but could - in fact - be the burial shroud that was used to wrap the body of Christ.

    The cloth’s consistency is similar to those used to bury the dead at the time of Christ, 2,000 years ago, according to the latest scientific studies.

    Details of the research have emerged in a book and come ahead of Saturday's rare glimpse of the Shroud, when TV cameras will film it as part of a live broadcast ahead of Easter Sunday.



    For centuries scientists have argued about the authenticity of the Shroud - which is kept in a secure vault in Turin Cathedral - and it has become one of the most iconic images of the Roman Catholic faith.

    The 14ft-long linen cloth bears the faint image of the front and back of a tall, long-haired, bearded man and appears to be stained by blood from wounds in his feet, wrists and sides that match those suffered by Christ at his Crucifixion.

    The findings are in a new book called Il Mistero della Sindone (The Mystery of the Shroud) which is published on Good Friday.

    The authors, Professor Giulio Fanti, an expert in mechanical and thermal measurement at the University of Padua’s Engineering Faculty and journalist Saverio Gaeta, examined fibres from the Shroud and compared them to samples of cloth dating back to between 3000BC and up to the modern era to contrast them and see if it is a Medieval forgery.

    Key to the findings are three new tests, two chemical ones and one mechanical, the first two were carried out using infra-red light, and the other using Raman spectroscopy - which measures radiation through wavelengths and is commonly used in forensic science.

    The results dated the fibres from the cloth to a period between 300BC to 400AD, which covers the years of Christ's life. Debate has raged whether the image is that of Christ or a fake from the Middle Ages. But what is certain is that experts have never really been able to explain how the image was made.

    Carbon 14 tests were conducted on the cloth in 1988 and these findings suggested it dated from between 1260 and 1390.

    However, some scientists have since claimed that contamination over the ages from water damage and fire, were not taken sufficiently into account and could have distorted the results.

    Since then, there have been several requests for fresh tests but Church chiefs have always refused - and this is why Professor Fanti and his team had to rely on fibres that were used in the 1988 tests.

    Before he retired last month pope Emeritus Benedict XVI gave permission for the Shroud to go on display as a 'last gift’ to the millions of Catholics before he retired from public office.

    Thirteen years ago when he was plain cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, Benedict wrote that the shroud was a ‘truly mysterious image, which no human artistry was capable of producing. In some inexplicable it appeared imprinted upon cloth...’

    Italian state TV will broadcast footage of the Shroud but it is not thought that general public access will be allowed until 2025, the date of the next scheduled display.

    As part of the TV broadcast, a new app called Sindone 2.0 has been developed, showing a series of HD images of the shroud which highlight details of the cloth not visible to the naked eye.
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    Well, not really solved, just seems to certify that it is not medieval and that it fits well with the expected date.

    With solved I rather thought they were going to tell us how it was printed. So far I still think that is the most impressive thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Count Arnau View Post
    With solved I rather thought they were going to tell us how it was printed. So far I still think that is the most impressive thing.
    Maybe it wasn't printed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Maybe it wasn't printed?
    By printed I meant impressed on the shroud, sorry. I frankly find it amazing that we cannot know how it happened yet on this very century.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Count Arnau View Post
    By printed I meant impressed on the shroud, sorry. I frankly find it amazing that we cannot know how it happened yet on this very century.
    Well, isn't it just the contours of the dead body that made the impressions, and aged with time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Well, isn't it just the contours of the dead body that made the impressions, and aged with time?

    Hmm, I'm no expert, but from what I've read, experts themselves are impressed by the high level of definition, the 3D aspect of it and its long preservation.

    In fact, that's why there are several different hypotheses about this. Although I'd say the ones who attributed it to medieval techniques might be ruled out now. And that probably still makes it more impressive.

    Obviously I'm parting from a humane stance. If one is a believer, the explanation is an easy one.
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    Okay, now let's extract some Y-dna and MtDNA, it's possible from blood, yes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Well, isn't it just the contours of the dead body that made the impressions, and aged with time?

    Well, three days isn't very long...

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    Okay, now let's extract some Y-dna and MtDNA, it's possible from blood, yes?
    If he's the son of god, obviously the Y-dna is going to be e1b1b1a

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