Sicilian, Italian, and Greek 23andme AC Results (Speculative) and Haplogroups.

[alfieb]

My cousin, born in Trapani. Would be very atypical in the East.

[Sikeliot]

How so? There is not much Northern European there.

Here is what I am noticing for Palermo and Trapani. Some appear to be (in an overall setting) "outliers" for Sicily and others cluster not that much differently than people in the east.

Here's what I will say. If the Sicanians were Iberian, they must not have been like modern Iberians since not a single one of the Sicilians thus far has any percentage of Iberian showing up.

[alfieb]

How so? There is not much Northern European there.

6.4% Northern E + 0.4% Eastern E + 3.4% ???, while most Eastern Sicilians are entirely S. Euro with maybe a tiny amount of AJ (as seen here) or ME.

Not as extreme as a Palermitan, but you wouldn't confuse this for Messina.

[Sikeliot]

Are these people all within one family? I am sending more sharing invites out but so far I have not personally found anyone with such high Northern European.

[alfieb]

No. I don't share with any families (at least not users with shared accounts or same surnames. I'm sure people are related.)

[Sikeliot]

If the higher Northern European for Palermo seems to be a trend, then it'd make sense.. I can usually tell when someone is from there because of how much lighter and more Northern European they look than what is typical for Sicilians.. I rarely ever even see light eyes coming from Messina, Catania, or Enna.

[alfieb]

I don't know how much of it is a trend, so to speak.

The ones I've shown are from my RF (except for the "100% Italian" Eastern Sicilian). I have very few people on 23andMe that I share with that I am not related to. So, people who are from other parts of the province than the Southeast may show different results.

[Peyrol]

If the higher Northern European for Palermo seems to be a trend, then it'd make sense.. I can usually tell when someone is from there because of how much lighter and more Northern European they look than what is typical for Sicilians.. I rarely ever even see light eyes coming from Messina, Catania, or Enna.

According to the 1910 census, light eyes in Sicily were 21%

[Gaita]

Nah, I live in the US and I'm almost certain I was used as a reference - so I wonder how they chose.

Ah, ok, I'm not sure than. When you were asked about your four grandparents, did you simply say they were Portuguese?

[Atlantic Islander]

Ah, ok, I'm not sure than. When you were asked about your four grandparents, did you simply say they were Portuguese?

Yeah, I wrote that my maternal grandparents were born in the Azores and paternal grandparents in Barcelos. I was born in Portugal too, so that might have also mattered.

Either way you're the lucky one for not being included as a reference.