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Thread: Chamerian Genocide by Greece

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Sounds a bit ... genocidal to me.
    It is actually more suicidal. The middle picture is without doubt from the suicidal exodus from Messolongi:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Siege_of_Missolonghi

    You can see the original picture at the bottom right of the page. The Greeks besieged from the Ottoman army were running out of food and they decided a heroic exodus, but their plans were betrayed and they got massacred. It caused an uproar in Europe at the time.

    I have the suspicion that the other pictures are connected to similar desperate attacks on the Turks that failed, mass suicides that were the choice instead of surrender as in the dance of Zalongo or the case of the Arkadi monasteri in Crete which was the epicenter of a rebellion, and when the Ottomans reached the monastery and besieged it, all the combatants were killed, while the head monk of the monastery and some women and children were hiding near a room where the gunpowder was stored. They had no choice but to die or surrender. The head monk waited for the Turks to arrive, and blew the whole place, taking all besieged and many more Turks to the grave with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Sounds a bit ... genocidal to me.
    I never claimed that I am against genocides, especially when someone attacks & invades your country, just like Turks and Turkalbanians, you have to exterminate the enemy as well. No mercy to the scums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellenas View Post
    I never claimed that I am against genocides, especially when someone attacks & invades your country, just like Turks and Turkalbanians, you have to exterminate the enemy as well. No mercy to the scums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellenas View Post
    I never claimed that I am against genocides, especially when someone attacks & invades your country, just like Turks and Turkalbanians, you have to exterminate the enemy as well. No mercy to the scums.
    At least you're honest about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
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    As for the so-called "Cham genocide",all impartial sources,contrary to Albanian propagandistic false claims about "ethnic cleansing",agree it was a matter of deportation from Greek soil of collaborators of the occupying Nazi forces:






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    Hans-Jakob Bickel, visited the area and concluded

    20,000 Albanians, with Italian and now German support, spread terror to the rest of the population. Only in the region of Fanari 24 villages were destroyed. The entire harvest was taken by them. In my trip I realized that the Albanians kept the Greeks terrified inside their homes. Young Albanians, just finished from school, wandered heavily armed. The Greek population of Igoumenitsa had to find refuge in the mountains. The Albanians had stolen all the cattle and the fields remain uncultivated.


    pg. 498 Blutiges Edelweiss: die 1. Gebirgs-Division im Zweiten Weltkrieg

    I think we can assume that not every single Muslim took part in direct violence against the population. However, we can also assume that to maintain control that a fairly large portion did(the arming of school chidlren, as the German sources confesses, is evident of that). About 2100 Cham citizens of Greece were named by name as collaborators and sentences to death by Allied courts (sentenced in absentia). We can assume these 2100 had a good reason to flee. They took their wives (double that initial number- 4200) plus any children they had (8-10000, at least), plus their eldery and you get over half of the Cham population fled- even innocent people. It's obvious that they wouldn't leave behind their families.
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