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    Default American money: Georgia is a Bottomless Pit

    Georgia is a Bottomless Pit



    While there are many, many things that can be said negatively about Misha the Tie Eater: demagogue, liar, thief, mass murderer and coward, a positive can be given: he spends other people's money well. Evidence of this can be seen all over Tbilisi, the Georgian capital. The streets are clean and paved, the traffic lights are working. All the police have new uniforms and new, modern police cars. There is actual regular garbage collection and garbage cans on the streets. The parks are clean and well lit. There are new fountains all over the place. New construction. Yes, the hundreds of millions of non government aid that America has so generously given up from her own non-existent treasures: the debt that America's great grand children will be paying percentages on, are well spent.

    This does not even take into account such expenditures as Saakashvili's grand new palace in one of the oldest neighborhoods of Tbilisi, not that a lot of that neighborhood got left. It is bigger than any that has ever stood in Georgia's 5,000 year history, thank you America. Nor does it count the large sea shell shaped train terminal built at the renovated and expanded national airport, also in American debt, or the giant green glass super structure that is the fantasy landscape of the Ministry of the Interior.

    Of course, lucky Americans are not only spending on Georgia's new trees, bushes and new found cleanliness, they are also paying for the most militarized nation in the world. A nation of 4 million has 260,000 men under arms either on active service or in reserves, that is 6.5% of the population under arms officially and does not count the tens of thousands of police, special police, interior ministry troops and special forces. Never mind that most of that military ability was destroyed in only six days and is now again being replaced by the US taxpayer's endless gratitude of debt, Pravda.Ru reports.

    Exactly why does the Saakashvili regime need such a big army? That in itself should raise one's suspicions especially in light of Georgian misbehavior last August.

    Meanwhile, back in the USA, US citizens have no right to health care. They are losing their jobs and homes. There are homeless people who have nothing in this world and very little to eat. There are sick people that can't see a doctor and may just die because their illness will go too far before it is discovered. There are lawsuits against people who cannot pay for medical care they already received. There are more and more people having homes foreclosed.

    This is just so some petty tin plated Georgian dictator can get away with war crimes and planning new wars of aggression. It is already disclosed that the US is not just training Georgian troops for Afghanistan, but for going on more killing sprees against their neighbors. Money well spent, eh?
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    Money poorly invested, the Russians will kick off the ass of them again..

    No, no.. I am not a Russian's fan either, though inside this conflict, I am!

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    Report on current US training of Georgian troops.

    Georgian official backs off troop training comment

    LARA JAKES | August 21, 2009 03:23 PM EST |
    TBILISI, Georgia — Georgia's defense minister asserted Friday that U.S. training for his Afghanistan-bound troops could also be put to use in any new flare-up with Russia, then retracted the statement amid American handwringing.
    Yes, the Banana minister couldn't help himself and was giving the game away.

    Georgian Defense Minister Vasil Sikharulidze told The Associated Press in an interview that the training his troops would receive from the U.S. military before heading to Afghanistan could also be used in Georgia's "very difficult security environment." Asked if he was referring to the possibility of another war with Russia, he said, "In general, yes."

    "This experience will be important for the Georgian armed forces itself – for the level of training," Sikharulidze said during the interview in his office.
    Within hours, Sikharulidze retracted his comments, which had sparked immediate alarm among U.S. military officials who said they were not giving Georgian troops any training aimed at fighting Russia.
    The US military were understandably not amused by their Banana brother.

    In a second AP interview, Sikharulidze said he did not mean to imply that the training would be used for military missions other than in Afghanistan. He would not say whether the American training program, which focuses on counterinsurgency tactics, would teach the Georgian troops any combat lessons.
    Blah blah blah blah........ it's no secret anymore what the US are arming and training the Georgians for.

    "It's standard training that all troops going to Afghanistan receive," Sikharulidze said.

    He added: "The security environment is really serious here, but more than this, we feel that we can do our new mission and we can send our troops in ISAF. And we feel that by sending these troops to ISAF we can contribute to the security stability for Afghanistan."

    ISAF is the International Security Assistance Force in Afghanistan.

    Sikharulidze's initial comments triggered a brief diplomatic crisis for the United States, which does not want to be pulled into the simmering feud between Georgia and Russia following its five-day war last year. American officials also do not want to jeopardize any opportunity to encourage allied nations to send soldiers to Afghanistan at a time when the U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates is resisting adding to the 68,000 U.S. troops that will be there by the year's end.
    Outsourced low cost / low value / low performance Georgian cannonfodder makes for good war economics.

    On Sept. 1, approximately 65 Marines will begin training a Georgian army battalion in counterinsurgency tactics before the troops head to Helmand province, the Taliban-infested region in southern Afghanistan. Sikharulidze met Friday with Marine Corps Commandant Gen. James Conway to discuss the training program.

    Earlier this week, Conway told The AP that the U.S. training program didn't include skills that could be used against Russia.

    Counterinsurgency skills "aren't very helpful when it comes to main force-type units if there were to be engagement of nations," Conway said. "I am very comfortable that what we're doing is very much aboveboard and is commensurate with what the country has said they need to put troops in Afghanistan."

    Several Georgian government officials echoed Conway's comments that the Marine training is not intended for use in any future face-offs with Russia.
    Perhaps this particular training doesn't include dealing with "main force units" but there's little reason to believe other programs will stop with "counterinsurgency training".

    Sikharulidze also said that while Georgia has committed to fighting in Afghanistan for two years, officials would pull back its troops if war broke out again with Russia.
    He'll be one of the first one to know when the next war is planned for.

    Georgia says last year's war started with a Russian invasion of the South Ossetia separatist region and that Russia aimed to regain control of Georgia.
    It started with a Georgian bombardment and invasion of Tshkinvali. Russia effectively did control Georgia within days. The advance stopped a few kilometers outside Tbilisi. If Russia wanted to "regain control" of Georgia they'd have done so, easily.

    Russia says the fighting started with a Georgian assault.
    Correct

    Russia recognizes South Ossetia and Abkhazia as independent.

    During the initial interview with The AP, Sikharulidze cited what he called several Russian violations contributing to the feud between Tbilisi and Moscow, including Russian troops stationed on Georgia soil.

    "So that makes our security environment really very serious and difficult and it's quite alarming, really," Sikharulidze said.

    The U.S. training mission gives new life to a program that stalled when Marines left Georgia last year, shortly after the war broke out. Then, American troops were helping Georgians prepare to deploy to Iraq.
    Similarly, the United States gave Georgia military aid in 2002 and 2003 to help improve counterterror capabilities. Russia objected to the U.S. aid and claimed that Georgian forces were refusing to root out Chechen rebels who were taking shelter in Georgia.
    The idea was never to root out Islamos. It was to shelter them so they could plan and launch future attacks on Russia from Georgia.

    Marine Col. Scott Cottrell, who is leading the training, said the Georgians have been eager to learn to work alongside NATO forces.

    "I told them, 'Right now, you can do gate guard duty.' They didn't want that," Cottrell said while offering an overview of the program on Friday. "Are they capable? Yes. They just need to be educated a little bit."
    Banana Army's around the world are all the same, always thinking they're "special" because they can pose for pictures in fancy uniforms.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-w...aining-troops/

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    :quote Loki: Exactly why does the Saakashvili regime need such a big army? That in itself should raise one's suspicions especially in light of Georgian misbehavior last August.

    Simple, "if you want peace, prepare for war"..........an old quote i assure you it's quite apt for the situation....
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