How Celtic Are You?

[Allenson]

Today I'm gonna get laid with redhair chick, so I'm pretty Celtic.

Just oozing Celtishness.

[Osweo]

Just oozing Celtishness.

or celti-ness...

[Piparskeggr]

Not having been raised in a Celtic culture, I'll have to say 0%.

If we are just looking at blood lines, 25%.

[Anthropologique]

Is cake-mix 'a cake'? Is flour or sugar the ancestor of the cake!?

Stop talking shite.


You see the Atlantic Facade as a secondary expansion point?

I'm not buying this SW Iberia stuff. Doesn't explain how Celtic culture came to dominate Gaul, Bohemia and the Danube valley, and yet leave Iberia so diverse as it was.

At the present time, no one can be certain where Celticity developed initially.

Iberia was not culturally diverse along the far west. In that region, nearly all of the population was Celtic or Proto-Celtic at one time. I think that Celticity spread along the Atlantic Facade through extensive trade networks. Gaul also had an impact on Iberia.

[Anthropologique]

So what does Celtic ooze look like?

[Peasant]

I'm so Celtic I drink Guinness.

So what does Celtic ooze look like?

Green.

[Albion]

If you ever visit Australia you would love South West Australia, full of green grass, granite out crops, Granite islands that pop out of the sea like they have been masoned into ovals and native temperate rain forest, with trees that grow up to 70m in height. The only place that has higher trees in Aussie land is Tasmania where they grow to 85m. Nice and cool down there to.

http://www.virtualtourist.com/travel...le-TG-C-1.html

http://www.rainbowcoast.com.au/

Lots of hippies down there to though.

Tasmania looks god, I've been interested in there before. The western and southern wilderness areas of the island are nice.

He was talking about the areas Germanics and celts settled but where they have settled and where the culture continues to breathe in Europe. if we wanted to talk about where Germanics settled we could mention Russia, Romania, Hungary, Scilly parts of the balkans. But the Germanics there have little to no significance there. You're just throwing a red herring fallacy into this argument derailing the intention of the original post of the extension of Celtic and Germanic culture.

Indeed. No body cares where the Celts have been, we care where the Celtic culture is now.
Germanic culture occupies a large and very influential block of countries in NW Europe, Celtic culture occupies the periphery of Europe, countries historically downtrodden by England, France or Spain.

Celtic culture is non-existant there, but even before the roman empire expanded you are truly scrapping round the bucket for any celtic impact in hungary.

The Roman Emoire and Germanic expansion were the death of Celtic culture outside of the British Isles and a few Peninsulas on the edge of Europe (Brittany).
Even in France, the strongest of the Celts - the Gauls have been romanised.

I believe they came from the Megolithic peoples.

Stonehenge was ancient to the Celts and was here before their culture was.

The "Celts" of Britain and indeed the "Germanics" (English) largely descend from the stone age colonists who came here after the LGM ("Ice Age") anyway.
They came from two directions - the Basque country and a smaller migration into eastern England and Scotland from the Rhine Delta (which explains some of the pre-Germanic genetic similarities between E. England and the Netherlands).

That means they pre-date even the megaliths which came a few millennia latter, probably as a adopted cultural phenomenon.

Celtic culture latter spread to the British Isles via small migrations and finally so too did Germanic culture which was spread by more substantial migrations into the east of England.

However most Brits are still descended from the first colonisers with Celtic and Germanic cultures simply being just superimposed on an existing population.

[Argyll]

Tasmania looks god, I've been interested in there before. The western and southern wilderness areas of the island are nice.



Indeed. No body cares where the Celts have been, we care where the Celtic culture is now.
Germanic culture occupies a large and very influential block of countries in NW Europe, Celtic culture occupies the periphery of Europe, countries historically downtrodden by England, France or Spain.





The Roman Emoire and Germanic expansion were the death of Celtic culture outside of the British Isles and a few Peninsulas on the edge of Europe (Brittany).
Even in France, the strongest of the Celts - the Gauls have been romanised.



Stonehenge was ancient to the Celts and was here before their culture was.

The "Celts" of Britain and indeed the "Germanics" (English) largely descend from the stone age colonists who came here after the LGM ("Ice Age") anyway.
They came from two directions - the Basque country and a smaller migration into eastern England and Scotland from the Rhine Delta (which explains some of the pre-Germanic genetic similarities between E. England and the Netherlands).

That means they pre-date even the megaliths which came a few millennia latter, probably as a adopted cultural phenomenon.

Celtic culture latter spread to the British Isles via small migrations and finally so too did Germanic culture which was spread by more substantial migrations into the east of England.

However most Brits are still descended from the first colonisers with Celtic and Germanic cultures simply being just superimposed on an existing population.

Well, I believe that Celtic culture evolved from those megalithic peoples.

[Sahson]

Stonehenge was ancient to the Celts and was here before their culture was.

The "Celts" of Britain and indeed the "Germanics" (English) largely descend from the stone age colonists who came here after the LGM ("Ice Age") anyway.
They came from two directions - the Basque country and a smaller migration into eastern England and Scotland from the Rhine Delta (which explains some of the pre-Germanic genetic similarities between E. England and the Netherlands).

That means they pre-date even the megaliths which came a few millennia latter, probably as a adopted cultural phenomenon.

Actually I had a word with Dr. Daniel Bradley about this recently, I'll quote him word for word.

Dear Mr Walløe,

I am of limited help as we have not been very active in this area of late, and things move on. I'll attach a recent paper. My own view is that we really won't know much more about origins until the database of ancient DNA specimens begins to fill out, as it surely will.

best wishes

Dan Bradley

While some data suggest R1b is from North africa other matches up the Kurgan hypothesis, so... if the kurgan is right, than that makes Celtic all more IE, as well as Germanic - thus no Germanic substrate

However thats the thing Celtic has a better legitimacy of being IE than Germanic languages do. So while the people might not be Aryans, they still speak an IE language.

[Albion]

Well, I believe that Celtic culture evolved from those megalithic peoples.

I very much doubt it.

Anyway, if we want to talk of Celtic migrations there was one - of the Belgae into southern England.