Canada's new "Trolling Law"

[The Lawspeaker]

I'm outraged it took two girls to die (and it publicized, many died before that) before this issue even got discussed. I was involved in activism about this since the death of Amanda Todd, plus dealing with my own issues before then and getting nowhere. Remember, I could have gone the libel route but that is a civil court law so it would have cost me LOTS of money. Now it's a criminal court matter.

Again, there is nothing about censorship in it, it's to stop people from making unwanted contact.

Because both the legislative branch and the police and the judicial service hadn't bothered to understand that this is the year 2013 and there is something called the internet which allows for greater anonymity (with all the nasty results that may come from it). While this girl has become the victim of her torturers, she and her parents equally became of a government that is too complacent and evidently too self-absorbed to govern a country and that now just uses her, as a cheap political motive, to enforce laws upon a people that aren't necessary and even dangerous while they should updating the old laws and actually bothering to enforce them. I would go as far as calling the government and the police an accessory to her rape and death because they did not do their work like they should have been doing (the rapists/harassers should have been arrested and charged with rape and the legal framework should have been there to deal with them).

[Grumpy Cat]

I would go as far as calling the government and the police an accessory to her death because they did not do their work like they should have been doing.

They couldn't because there was no law to charge her under. It's 2013 and many Canadian laws are still stuck in 1867.

[The Lawspeaker]

They couldn't because there was no law to charge her under. It's 2013 and many Canadian laws are still stuck in 1867.

And that's exactly what makes the government an accessory to her rape and death because they didn't do their job: their services didn't arrest the culprits, didn't charge them and the legal framework wasn't there. Their complacency is of the disgusting kind that they may just as well have done the deed themselves because they, by doing nothing, allowed for it to happen.

[The Lawspeaker]

In Dutch we have an adage: regeren is vooruitzien. To govern is to look ahead (be prepared). They weren't and they didn't and that makes the government incapable of governing the country. All in all there should be only one solution: Harper should go to the Queen or her highest representative, tender the resignation of his Cabinet and call for elections. They made the single, worst error that a government could make: not looking ahead, not preparing themselves and be complacent. It's a mortal sin. And this should be followed by widespread sackings within the higher echelons of the police and the judiciary: they too are responsible because they didn't do a thing.

[Grumpy Cat]

In Dutch we have an adage: regeren is vooruitzien. To govern is to look ahead (be prepared). They weren't and they didn't and that makes the government incapable of governing the country. All in all there should be only one solution: Harper should go to the Queen or her highest representative, tender the resignation of his Cabinet and call for elections. They made the single, worst error that a government could make: not looking ahead, not preparing themselves and be complacent. It's a mortal sin.

I agree with you, especially because I can relate to the frustration of these girls.

[The Lawspeaker]

I agree with you, especially because I can relate to the frustration of these girls.

By doing nothing they allow it to happen.. so they should not be allowed to govern but be forced to resign in disgrace. They are evidently unfit to do a proper job.

[Grumpy Cat]

By doing nothing they allow it to happen.. so they should not be allowed to govern but be forced to resign in disgrace. They are evidently unfit to do a proper job.

It's not just Harper, in fairness. The Internet was around before he was elected. I remember the first time I had someone threatening to rape and murder me over IRC, Chretien was PM back then. I didn't tell anyone though, I got some of my "not so nice" friends to deal with it.

[The Lawspeaker]

It's not just Harper, in fairness. The Internet was around before he was elected. I remember the first time I had someone threatening to rape and murder me over IRC, Chretien was PM back then. I didn't tell anyone though, I got some of my "not so nice" friends to deal with it.

Well yes the Internet has been around for the last 20 years. That gave him (and former cabinets) plenty of plenty of time to wisen up and look ahead. He didn't. And thus he is responsible. And thus should he resign.

It it happened here in the Netherlands and I was Prime Minister I would have gone to the King to tender the resignation of the Cabinet because we were ultimately collectively responsible.. and call for elections (because also the legislative branch is responsible). If you can't stand the heat.. stay out of the kitchen. Particularly in the world of politics. It's not about the money.. it's about the ambt. The responsibility that weighs on your shoulders and apparently in the case of Mr. Harper the shoulders have given way.

[alfieb]

Uh what? What about the guys who raped her, and then the guys and girls who harassed her?

I live in the city where it happened, the guy who raped her is an ass. He was arrested and did time in juvie for pulling a BB gun on a cop (lucky he wasn't killed, dumbass!). Then he gets out and torments this girl?

HIS parents are obviously not doing their jobs. Or maybe just parent. I bet he doesn't even know who his father is.

I believe in life imprisonment for rapists.

But rape isn't murder. She's not dead because of his parents. She's dead because she chose to be.

[The Lawspeaker]

But rape isn't murder. She's not dead because of his parents. She's dead because she chose to be.

She is dead because the police didn't enforce the laws.. because the government DIDN'T introduce the kind of laws that are required in this day and age. All in all one can say that tax money has been wasted and a life has been lost because of government complacency. Rapists are crooks that should be thrown in prison for the rest of their lives.. and they didn't even do that.