Does your ethnicity mix with Gypsies?

[evon]

Well, as a matter of fact we known from Roma culture in general that endogamy is the norm, hence the majority of those whom mixed with outsiders, would have been excluded from the Rom community. At what time they adopted this practice as a cultural norm i do not know, but looking at their DNA make-up one can see that they have some DNA from the middle east, which could be from Anatolia as much as from say Iran/Iraq ect, especially given their known prolonged stay in the Byzantine empire..So it would likely have been more recently, post 1200's is my guess.

In Scandinavia it has been frowned upon in recent times, due to modern racial adaptations (1800's onwards, especially in the inter-war era of 1900's), before that it was not so much a problem, and we know that a good number of Roma and others (Russians, Germans, Tatars ect) come to Scandinavia as mercenaries, many whom assimilated into the general population, while some Roma remained nomadic, and are now referred to as Romani.

My own family dont have an issue with our Romani ancestry, but we were not expecting it to be via my grandmother, rather there are oral stories of my grandfather having such ancestry, but eitherway, its part of our history now..our Romani relative was likely excommunicated from the Romani culture when they mixed, hence the lack of a oral tradition, or they were adopted without knowing their Romani ancestry...Eitherway, my grandmother did not know..

[Szegedist]

In Gypsy culture, those who mix (culturally or actually) with non Gypsies lose their romanipen (Gypsy spirit) and become Gadjo (something like Goim but for non gypsies)

[Bosnjakinja]

I think a big part of it is social differences. When there is mixing it is usually with the small % of so called "middle class gypsies", rather than Gypsies from slums.

Some Gypsies could even pass as white and look Southern Euro due to mixing, but still retain a gypsy identity, etc.

Definitely. The ones who live in slums and dont wipe after they take a dump pretty much rule themselves out anywyas, but the ones who actually function in society are the ones who have a chance of getting mixed.

The saying goes that Emir Kusturica is a white Roma from Gorica but I dont know if thats true or if Bosniaks just say it because they dont like him:

[Pallantides]

In Norway there is a minority called Tatere, who are believed to descend from the first wave of gypsies that came to Norway in the 16th century.




Gypsies have always been a very small minority in Norway and thus the mixing have been rather minimal.

[ABest]

There are gypsies in Greece, but I doubt they have impacted our gene pool.

[Szegedist]

Why do Balkanites spit upon Gypsies and still mix with them?

Some Greek harassed me with MSG, but Turks have standards, don't blame me if your people don't have standards.

Hoca to give you an example, most Turks would probably not marry an Armenian , but there is the occasional few who do. Sometimes such things simply happen.

But what I find funny is when some nations(they know who they are) claimed they never ever mixed with Gypsies, which is not true at all

[Damião de Góis]

Nope, they live in a very closed society of their own. It's very unlikely that for example, a portuguese guy would meet a gypsy girl and they would start dating. That would only happen if the gypsy in question left their gypsy way of life and integrated into normal society, which is unheard of, or very rare. And besides, dating a gypsy girl would mean having to deal with her brothers, cousins, uncles, etc.

So in short, no.

[Bosnjakinja]

Are there many gypsies in Portugal?

[evon]

In Norway there is a minority called Tatere, who are believed to descend from the first wave of gypsies that came to Norway in the 16th century.




Gypsies have always been a very small minority in Norway and mixing have been minimal.

The Taters came in the 1500's, likely from UK, Romani came during the 16-1700's from Germany (Sinti) and Finland (Finnish Kale), i think my grandfathers ancestry might be from the First wave, while my grandmothers is from the Second or third waves..

[Hoca]

Hoca to give you an example, most Turks would probably not marry an Armenian , but there is the occasional few who do. Sometimes such things simply happen.

But what I find funny is when some nations(they know who they are) claimed they never ever mixed with Gypsies, which is not true at all

I don't think it is the same. Armenians/Turkish marriage don't happen because of war. While Gypsies and Balkanites never had a war.