The Second Best Army of World War II

[glass]

I think the Germans and Finns were the best fighters in WW2, followed by the USSR and Japan in that order. The British were superior in air to the Germans it seems however.

i think you overrate finns, they were good at harrasing frozen soviet units but nothing really more

Wehrmacht at the first half of the war. At the second half, Red army

i would sign this
Though at start germans had experienced troops that conquered nearly whole europe, while soviets had learn how to fight when enemy was at Moscow outskirts.

The first problem you have is you're not differentiating between the army itself and the countrie's industrial capacity but even so Russia suffered a huge series of military defeats and Russia was so bad by 1941 that Britain had to come to her aid including sending "5,000 tanks and 7,000 aircraft were delivered to the Soviets, not to mention 15 million pairs of boots, among the four million tons of vital supplies sent to the Allies."

Numbers may look big, but actually it was a few percent of what Soviet Union produced. Also soviet tanks were best in the world, amercan aircrat was probably better, but still only 7k. Non arms supplies were much more important than weaponry

No. That's quite logical and the most secure way!

Polish army best army? Nice joke!

That's why they fought so long?

Same with the Greek army. Just the support of the British troops helped them to stand against the Wehrmacht so long.

Red Army was bad equipped but they were many!

Americans were cowards but well equipped.

The best armies were the Wehrmacht + Waffen SS, Brits and Japanese.

jsut another proof how ignorant you are

[Grenzland]

Well forcing your own troops to attack German MGs without weapons is not so nice...

And using tanks that aren't able to drive without streets isn't clever at all...

[Ultra]

No. That's quite logical and the most secure way!

Polish army best army? Nice joke!

That's why they fought so long?

Same with the Greek army. Just the support of the British troops helped them to stand against the Wehrmacht so long.

Red Army was bad equipped but they were many!

Americans were cowards but well equipped.

The best armies were the Wehrmacht + Waffen SS, Brits and Japanese.

Soviet guns, tanks and firearms were initially superior to the German ones at the start of the war and during Operation Barbarossa(or for the rest of the war for most matters). Only thing the Soviets were lacking in was a proper MG, contrary to that of the Germans. Anything else though tanks, SMGs, semi-automatic rifles were SUPERIOR. The quality of Soviet equipment was not BAD. It's wrong to say that the Soviets were "bad equipped" when they were exactly the opposite. German success was due to much better training, superior military strategy and doctrine and preparation. If Stalin and the Red Army actually had taken the warning sings seriously and been prepared Operation Barbarossa would have been far from as succesful as it was, perhaps not very not much at all.


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i think you overrate finns, they were good at harrasing frozen soviet units but nothing really more

I think the Winter War proves they were a bit more formidable opponents than that.

[Grenzland]

Soviet guns, tanks and firearms were initially superior to the German ones at the start of the war and during Operation Barbarossa(or for the rest of the war for most matters). Only thing the Soviets were lacking in was a proper MG, contrary to that of the Germans. Anything else though tanks, SMGs, semi-automatic rifles were SUPERIOR. The quality of Soviet equipment was not BAD. It's wrong to say that the Soviets were "bad equipped" when they were exactly the opposite. German success was due to much better training, superior military strategy and doctrine and preparation. If Stalin and the Red Army actually had taken the warning sings seriously and been prepared Operation Barbarossa would have been far from as succesful as it was, perhaps not very not much at all.


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I think the Winter War proves they were a bit more formidable opponents than that.

There are a lot of theories why the Wehrmacht could invade Russia and be so successful at the beginning.

One of them says the SU also wanted to attack Germany so they just were equipped for attacking, not for defending.

[Kastrioti1443]

Soviet guns, tanks and firearms were initially superior to the German ones at the start of the war and during Operation Barbarossa(or for the rest of the war for most matters). Only thing the Soviets were lacking in was a proper MG, contrary to that of the Germans. Anything else though tanks, SMGs, semi-automatic rifles were SUPERIOR. The quality of Soviet equipment was not BAD. It's wrong to say that the Soviets were "bad equipped" when they were exactly the opposite. German success was due to much better training, superior military strategy and doctrine and preparation. If Stalin and the Red Army actually had taken the warning sings seriously and been prepared Operation Barbarossa would have been far from as succesful as it was, perhaps not very not much at all.


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I think the Winter War proves they were a bit more formidable opponents than that.

You're kiding right???? russians superior than germans in tanks, rifles, automatic rifles, canons, aircrafts?????

Only Panther and Panzer IV were enough to turn into ashes all the russian tanks.

Tiger Ace is another matter, we won't see a tank like that anymore. Only 1,300 Tigers were pruduced and they destroyed more than 30,000 tanks and vehicles, majority russian.

[Szegedist]

Best at what exactly?

[Graham]

You wonder how Britain would have fared, if it weren't for the Channel. Dunkirk evacuation, in retreat.

Everyone would pick, whom their grandparents, or great-grandparents fought for.

[Kastrioti1443]

I really don't understand why Hitler didn't extreminate the british-french forces in Dunkirk, more than 350,000 soldiers escaped.

[Szegedist]

I really don't understand why Hitler didn't extreminate the british-french forces in Dunkirk, more than 350,000 soldiers escaped.

He hoped that the British will change their minds and be at peace with Germany, or even allied themselves with Germany, so he went easy on them.

[Kastrioti1443]

He hoped that the British will change their minds and be at peace with Germany, or even allied themselves with Germany, so he went easy on them.

Britain would be over if germans would kill all of those soldiers.