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    Quote Originally Posted by P-Chan View Post
    SOUTHERN ITALIAN REGIONS GDP per capita (2008):

    Sardinia : €19,700 = $25,621

    Apulia : €16,900 = $21,980

    Sicily : €16,600 = $21,589

    Campania : €16,400 = $21,329

    Calabria : €16,400 = $21,329


    Russia GDP per capita (2008): $14,600
    (2012) $14,247







    The two poorest Italian provinces and current equivalent OECD provinces:

    Portugal PT116 Entre Douro E Vouga
    Italy ITG14 Agrigento
    Czech Republic CZ041 Karlovarský
    Italy ITG2B Medio Campidano
    Hungary HU102 Pest


    The two poorest Russian republics and curret equivalent countries:

    Chechnya Bhutan
    Ingushetia Iraq



    Sources: your links.
    Russia have 140 million people, how the GDP of Moscow or St Petersburg areas??
    The difference bettween whole Russia and some italian 'regione' do not much big.

    The poorest russian regions aren't ethnic slavic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andarijo View Post
    Russia have 140 million people, how the GDP of Moscow or St Petersburg areas??
    The difference bettween whole Russia and some italian 'regione' do not much big.

    The poorest russian regions aren't ethnic slavic.
    Didn't you read my last post in page 16? Why are you attempting to demonstrate senseless statements if I' ve already answered with unquestionable informations?




    Quote Originally Posted by P-Chan View Post

    Italian southern Regions GDP (2008):
    Sardinia $25,621
    Apulia $21,980
    Sicily $21,589
    Campania $21,329
    Calabria $21,329

    And current equivalent Russian ones (2009):
    St.Petersburg $25,277
    Tatarstan $23,290
    Komi Republic $22,335
    Leningrad Oblast $21,549


    well Sardinia has a GDP per capita comparable to the 5th richest Russian region, Calabria with the 8th richest Russian one.

    And Russia is divided into 80 federal subjetcs!!

    So, if the poorest Italian region has a GDP per capita like the 8th richest Russian federal subject, is Russia richer than Southern Italy? The answer is NO.

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    It's racial

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    Quote Originally Posted by P-Chan View Post
    Didn't you read my last post in page 16? Why are you attempting to demonstrate senseless statements if I' ve already answered with unquestionable informations?
    But their claims are questionable. You are comparing two regions of distinct magnitudes. You are comparing a giant country with a past and quite complicated with a region, much smaller in size and population and has gone through half a century of possibilities and does not have any advantage.
    Likewise it is different you compare Mongolia with southern Italy.

    Income differences between Russia WHOLE, and Southern Italy are not large
    Russia is a heterogeneous country in terms of ethnic, cultural and religious compared with Italy
    The poorest regions of Russia are mostly non-ethnic Russian or Slavic while the poorest regions of Italy white and Catholic, are full of Italians.
    Moscow and St. Petersburg may present a per capita income higher or equal than the average of southern Italy

    You are comparing the wrong values​​. I keep thinking that southern Europeans take life in a more quiet and relaxed than their European counterparts.

    While I partially agree with your comparisons, again, you despise several factors that have great influence on the final results.
    Russia is a very large country with a very large population and southern Italy not.
    I believe it is easier to manage a small country than a large country.
    The differences between southern Italy and Russia in income are particularly despicable and taking into account that the second is growing faster than the first then its proof
    '' South of Italy is richer than Russia'' will not last for many years.

    Did you use a single statistic, the per capita income.
    For instance, GDP in the Russians now are much richer than the South of Italy.
    The main topic of this post is not'' Russians versus southern Italian'' but
    '' Northern Italian versus southern Italian''

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andarijo View Post
    But their claims are questionable. You are comparing two regions of distinct magnitudes. You are comparing a giant country with a past and quite complicated with a region, much smaller in size and population and has gone through half a century of possibilities and does not have any advantage.
    Likewise it is different you compare Mongolia with southern Italy.

    Income differences between Russia WHOLE, and Southern Italy are not large
    Russia is a heterogeneous country in terms of ethnic, cultural and religious compared with Italy
    The poorest regions of Russia are mostly non-ethnic Russian or Slavic while the poorest regions of Italy white and Catholic, are full of Italians.
    Moscow and St. Petersburg may present a per capita income higher or equal than the average of southern Italy

    You are comparing the wrong values​​. I keep thinking that southern Europeans take life in a more quiet and relaxed than their European counterparts.

    While I partially agree with your comparisons, again, you despise several factors that have great influence on the final results.
    Russia is a very large country with a very large population and southern Italy not.
    I believe it is easier to manage a small country than a large country.
    The differences between southern Italy and Russia in income are particularly despicable and taking into account that the second is growing faster than the first then its proof
    '' South of Italy is richer than Russia'' will not last for many years.

    Did you use a single statistic, the per capita income.
    For instance, GDP in the Russians now are much richer than the South of Italy.
    The main topic of this post is not'' Russians versus southern Italian'' but
    '' Northern Italian versus southern Italian''


    Can't you read? I' ve written three times that Sardinia Island (a region geographically located in the south of Italy) has a GDP income per capita higher than Saint Petersburg area.
    And the poorest regions of Italy, Calabria and Campania, have a GDP income per capita enormously higher than the avarage GDP per capita of Russia.

    What else should I say?

    Russia is a power if we speak about GDP, it has a very great gross domestic product because it's one of the most populated and biggest countries in the world, and it's the same if we speak about India or even Nigeria!
    But its people on avarage is poor if compared to every country of western Europe! Quality of life, life expectancy and personal income are extremely lower than in any area of Southern Italy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P-Chan View Post
    Can't you read? I' ve written three times that Sardinia Island (a region geographically located in the south of Italy) has a GDP income per capita higher than Saint Petersburg area.
    And the poorest regions of Italy, Calabria and Campania, have a GDP income per capita enormously higher than the avarage GDP per capita of Russia.

    What else should I say?

    Russia is a power if we speak about GDP, it has a very great gross domestic product because it's one of the most populated and biggest countries in the world, and it's the same if we speak about India or even Nigeria!
    But its people on avarage is poor if compared to every country of western Europe! Quality of life, life expectancy and personal income are extremely lower than in any area of Southern Italy.
    Where are you going?
    What I was arguing with you about the use of per capita income, to `` prove `` that southern Italy is richer than Russia. If you wanted to prove that southern Italy is better then that Russia used the male life expectancy as a comparison. Russians would look like a third world country.
    This discussion has been too long, now you tell us why Southern Italy is poorer than the north.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andarijo View Post
    Where are you going?
    What I was arguing with you about the use of per capita income, to `` prove `` that southern Italy is richer than Russia. If you wanted to prove that southern Italy is better then that Russia used the male life expectancy as a comparison. Russians would look like a third world country.
    This discussion has been too long, now you tell us why Southern Italy is poorer than the north.

    What? I didn't start the debate S.Italy/Russia! But I can't conceive that anyone could really think that Russian people are on avarage wealthier than Southern Italy ihnabitants. It's simply absurd.... have you ever been to Russia?

    While about Southern Italy "poverty", the reason has been already explained. Lack of infrastructures, isolation and in some regions the presence of criminal organizations and widespread corruption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P-Chan View Post
    What? I didn't start the debate S.Italy/Russia! But I can't conceive that anyone could really think that Russian people are on avarage wealthier than Southern Italy ihnabitants. It's simply absurd.... have you ever been to Russia?

    While about Southern Italy "poverty", the reason has been already explained. Lack of infrastructures, isolation and in some regions the presence of criminal organizations and widespread corruption.
    There's a lack of infrastructure in my sock drawer

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    Quote Originally Posted by P-Chan View Post
    What? I didn't start the debate S.Italy/Russia! But I can't conceive that anyone could really think that Russian people are on avarage wealthier than Southern Italy ihnabitants. It's simply absurd.... have you ever been to Russia?

    While about Southern Italy "poverty", the reason has been already explained. Lack of infrastructures, isolation and in some regions the presence of criminal organizations and widespread corruption.
    The origin of many problems begins in the people. For example, in Brazil the majority of politicals are corrupt, but, the majority of ordinary brazilian people will turn corrupt if were in the place of politicals.
    In Brazil we have similar problems, guilty of government?
    Pay scandinavian taxes for african services

    Your debate about the ''poverty'' in south Italy finnish when genetic factors are also studied.

    Why brazilian people are less inteligent and have corrupt tendencies??
    Is the X of a question

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andarijo View Post
    Your debate about the ''poverty'' in south Italy finnish when genetic factors are also studied.

    Why brazilian people are less inteligent and have corrupt tendencies??
    Is the X of a question

    Do you mean that Southern Italy is under developed due to the genetics of its ihnabitants?!? hahah

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