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    Quote Originally Posted by safinator View Post
    Definitely one of the most funny myths on Anthroforums.
    Yes, in all the antropological forums there is this absurd credence...created probabily by people who never seen a single one in their entire life or by some same north africans who cherrypiks some light skinned blond berber (lol, i never seen any of them neither when i was in Morocco and in Lybia).

    You lived in Italy Saf, you know how much we are infested by these negroarabs.

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    See these groups of illegals maghrebi which landed in Lampedusa and tell me how european they are

    https://www.google.it/search?q=immig...K4bjtQbb8sD_Dg

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    The myth has nothing to do with North Africans, it's people of euro/american descent on ze internet who see the world as white/mixed/brown/black/yellow/red...

    Only retarded people identify as "white" anyway, including Italians.


    As for the pictures, it's very easy to cherry-pick ugly or mixed populations, just like everybody on this forum cherry-pick the best looking young female (faggots' choice) with makeup to represent european populations.


    Finally, to be objective, I just checked a recent paper on craniofacial variation:
    The questionable contribution of the Neolithic and the Bronze Age to European craniofacial form



    OMG! Modern Italians cluster with modern North Africans (and ME)...

    When groups that are close to each other in the dendrogram in Fig. 1 are combined to make a single dendrogram twig, the picture is simplified, but much the same conclusion is supported. Czech, Denmark, England, Etruscan, Finn/Sami, France, Germany, Iceland, Norway, Sardinia, and Swiss samples are combined to make a sample designated as “Modern Europe.” Algeria, Berber, Greece, Iran/Iraq, Italy, Morocco, Sicily, and Tunisia samples were combined to generate a “Modern Mediterranean” twig

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    Funny article isn't it?

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    Well, I kind of disagree here.

    The Caucasoidness (I avoid the term "whiteness") of native Berbers in the Maghreb is true, not a myth. What is false is the frequency, as most North Africans are partially mixed with other Africans. It is quite likely, though, that they look much swarthier in Italy than in Iberia, as I'm guessing many there are from Lybia and Egypt, while here most are from the Rif. Yet they are easily distinguishable all the same in most cases.

    I don't know the figures about North Africans descending from Moriscos or people influenced by European colonials in the 19th/20th centuries. But again I'm sure they're more in northern Morocco and Algeria than in Lybia and Egypt.

    This is what I consider a Berber Caucasoid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Útrám View Post
    North-Africa has been conquered and colonized by various European powers throughout history.
    There still are remnants of Europid stock left from these hegemonies which may account for the lighter appearances of some locals.
    Khabilians and other light berber are less than 8% of the total maghrebi population.

    Quote Originally Posted by zlakopistou View Post
    The myth has nothing to do with North Africans, it's people of euro/american descent on ze internet who see the world as white/mixed/brown/black/yellow/red...

    Only retarded people identify as "white" anyway, including Italians.


    As for the pictures, it's very easy to cherry-pick ugly or mixed populations, just like everybody on this forum cherry-pick the best looking young female (faggots' choice) with makeup to represent european populations.


    Finally, to be objective, I just checked a recent paper on craniofacial variation:
    The questionable contribution of the Neolithic and the Bronze Age to European craniofacial form



    OMG! Modern Italians cluster with modern North Africans (and ME)...




    Aahahaha pictures taken in Morocco squares are "cherrypiking"?

    Come here to my city and see the truth, moldovan.
    Ancient neolithic northafricans have very few to do with modern northafricans, wich are a mix of europoids, arabids and subsaharians.

    Ah, another thing "italian ethnicity" don't exist.



    It's funny see foreigners talk about some ethnicity without living in a city where these ethncities are diffuses

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    do you have gypsies in your city as well, do they look different then northafricans, can you distinguish the two and if so how? because there is a theory that gypsies are descendant of egyptians, it was proposed in the middle ages and lasted up until 2 centuries ago where it was discovered that gypsies are from India, not that i believe they are from egypt but probably there was a physical resemblance to old egyptians if europeans thought they are from egypt. any thoughts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inquiring Mind View Post
    do you have gypsies in your city as well, do they look different then northafricans, can you distinguish the two and if so how? because there is a theory that gypsies are descendant of egyptians, it was proposed in the middle ages and lasted up until 2 centuries ago where it was discovered that gypsies are from India, not that i believe they are from egypt but probably there was a physical resemblance to old egyptians if europeans thought they are from egypt. any thoughts?
    I heard this gypsy legend, of the two "gypsy Adam and Eve" , but i sincerely don't believe in this.

    Average rom gypsy here (excluding the two tribes of Sintu and Kalderanos wich are here since 1400) look a mix between slavs and mideasterns.

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    North Africans I saw in Italy are at least 25%Negroid.

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    Tunisians, at least, do not look 25% black African to me, but Moroccans usually do.

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