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The reason seems pretty obvious, doesn't it? Soviets wouldn't have liked these to look too similar, would they?
Actually, I was pleasantly surprised to see at least the Lithuania's post stamp the way it is - in spite of Soviet's habit to distort history, folklore - everything they could lay their hands upon, really - in spite of that the Lithuanian representation just looked perfect, they didn't screw it up it at all - I mean, they didn't spam it with crappy accordions, drums or bandoneons...
My question was about that specific tune rather than some general style. I was wondering about it because it's very popular in Lithuania but it's more energetic than average and there's this reference in the lyrics, so I was curious if maybe it could have been borrowed from Belarusians? So far, having listened to all those videos I haven't heard Belarusians playing it though.
And a Lithuanian too! Incidentally, the Lithuanian part seems gloomier than Estonian.
Compared to the authentic Lithuanian version of that song, the hell it does - more expressive, dramatic, melodic as opposed to rhythmic, monotonous!
http://youtu.be/jAPLx1liWVo?t=6m54s
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I read somewhere Belarus wasn't the only republic that didn't get to keep all their traditional musical instruments. I can't comment any further as I don't remember the details. So, Lithuanians have been more fortunate keeping their instruments.
Sorry, linkus. I was multitasking. I don’t know if there was or there wasn’t a similar tune in Belarus. Duda was popular in Vilenskaja and Vitebskaya gubernia and North-western Belarus. So, maybe ... If I come across a tune similar to the one you posted earlier I will post it here.My question was about that specific tune rather than some general style. I was wondering about it because it's very popular in Lithuania but it's more energetic than average and there's this reference in the lyrics, so I was curious if maybe it could have borrowed from Belarusians? So far, having listened to all those videos I haven't heard Belarusians playing it though.
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In the Czech republic are bagpipes tied mostly from southern Bohemia, especially with the town of Strakonice.
Czech kind of bagpipes are not blow from mouth but the bag is pushed by the arm:
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In Strakonice taken place a International Bagpipe Festival, every year
http://www.dudackyfestival.cz/index....ome&hl=english
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From Czech movie Strakonický dudák (Bagpiper of Strakonice)
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Are you sure that all of those are traditional Belarusian musical instruments? Two drums in the lower left corner and two weirdly shaped bubbles towards the upper left corner don't strike me as traditional looking.
However, if all of them really are genuine BY folk instruments, it's interesting that your pan flutes are tied together for solo performing like those of Latvians rather than loose and meant for communal polyphony like the Lithuanian ones (when playing them, there has to be a group of at the very least 3-4 people and each holds one or two pan flutes skudutis - http://youtu.be/wyBgXqVgOdw?t=52m24s ).
Could you find some recording to show what the Belarusian pan flutes sound like? And what are they called?
Also, I found this scheme of the distribution of Baltic psalteries:
1 - of the 1th type of psalteries
2 - of the 2nd type of psalteries
3 - of the 3rd type of psalteries
4 - the limit of Narva culture
(E - Eastern, N - Nothern, W - Western variants)5 - the limit of Nemunas culture.
It would imply that originally only the 1st type of psalteries was known in Belarus and only in the far North-Western fringe.
Is there some reliable material for reading up on the Belarusian psaltery? This documentary contained some utterly bizarre stuff like claims that it came there from Scandinavia in the 12th century, so I don't think it can be trusted.
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I am not sure if all instruments on the picture are traditional Belarusian. I found the picture in an advertisement made by a musician playing psaltery and the Belarusian duda. The maintainer of the group who posted the picture was implying the musical instruments are 'ours'. The drum (бубен) is one of the Belarusian traditional instruments which can be found in museums. One of the 'weird shaped bubble' at the top looks like Ocarina which was also played in Belarus according to the ''Unusual enclypedia of belarusian traditiional instruments'. Ocarina instrument comes in different shapes. I found another picture showing a bubble shaped instrument among Belarusian traditional instruments. I can't recognise the unusual looking green colour instrument on the left of the 1st picture.
The picture of Ocarnia from personal collection of a guy who wrote the encyclopedia.
However, if all of them really are genuine BY folk instruments, it's interesting that your pan flutes are tied together for solo performing like those of Latvians rather than loose and meant for communal polyphony like the Lithuanian ones (when playing them, there has to be a group of at the very least 3-4 people and each holds one or two pan flutes skudutis - http://youtu.be/wyBgXqVgOdw?t=52m24s ).
Could you find some recording to show what the Belarusian pan flutes sound like? And what are they called?
I searched on pan flutes in traditional Belarusian folkore music and I couldn't find very much. There are some pictures displaying it as a Belarusian traditional instrument. I saw the instrument in the collection among other Belarusian instruments by the guy who wrote the aforementioned book on the Belarusian traditional musical instruments in which he didn't include the pan flute. I am assuming pan flute is more common in eastern and south-eastern Belarus. The instrument is more common in the neighbouring countries: Russia, Lithuania and Latvia. The Russian name of the instrument is Кугилы, Кувилы, флейта пана. Кугилы being the most common.
It'd be played in solo.
Also, I found this scheme of the distribution of Baltic psalteries:
It would imply that originally only the 1st type of psalteries was known in Belarus and only in the far North-Western fringe.
Is there some reliable material for reading up on the Belarusian psaltery? This documentary contained some utterly bizarre stuff like claims that it came there from Scandinavia in the 12th century, so I don't think it can be trusted.
There is more information on Belarusian psalteries than on the pan flute. The website states 7 different types of psalteries found in Belarus all in Vitebskaya Gubernia (present Viciebsk and part of Mahiliou region in Belarus) in the 19th begenning 20th century. Two pictures and references are provided. The psalteries are held in a St Petersburg museum now. Two psalteries listed on the website were also used in Latgale and Pskov region. Also, Stary Olsa list their musical instruments on their website. As per the information on the website, one psaltery was mentioned in literary work of the 12th century. Another psaltery is made for the band in Latgale by a Latvian maker. One more psaltery the band is playing is a copy of that found in Viciebsk region. See images of psalteries on Stary Olsa's website.
Several pictures of traditional musical instruments in a museum : http://zhlobin-museum.com/master-iz-...dlya-oksforda/
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