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    Quote Originally Posted by Albion View Post
    I think it already exists. I'll look it up tomorrow (unless I forget), but I think some ferry companies do link up with train services. Also there are the Euro routes which take ferry crossings into account too.
    Not to the Netherlands. There are regular ferry services though.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuan Belanda View Post
    Not to the Netherlands. There are regular ferry services though.
    http://www.stenaline.co.uk/ferry/rail-and-sail/holland/

    I knew I'd seen it somewhere. That's quite a reasonable prices actually, maybe that trip I've wanted to make to NL can be done on a tight budget after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albion View Post
    http://www.stenaline.co.uk/ferry/rail-and-sail/holland/

    I knew I'd seen it somewhere. That's quite a reasonable prices actually, maybe that trip I've wanted to make to NL can be done on a tight budget after all.
    Strange. I remember going with Stena Line last year and there was no train on board. It's probably that people have to get off the train at Harwich or at Hook of Holland. The train doesn't actually board the ship. The socalled Dutchflyer is a boat train service but not a train ferry (there is a difference between the two).

    I mean like this (in Denmark):



    We don't have that here.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuan Belanda View Post
    Strange. I remember going with Stena Line last year and there was no train on board. It's probably that people have to get off the train at Harwich or at Hook of Holland. The train doesn't actually board the ship.

    I mean like this:



    (in Denmark).

    We don't have that here.
    Ah, I see. I don't quite see the point though - why not just have a train terminal near the port? Most port towns have a railway station anyway, I think using ferry services and railways in conjunction is a very good idea, but not actually transporting the train - I just think that's odd.

    On that service I posted people take the train to the port town, cross on the ferry and then catch the train at the town they dock in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albion View Post
    Ah, I see. I don't quite see the point though - why not just have a train terminal near the port? Most port towns have a railway station anyway, I think using ferry services and railways in conjunction is a very good idea, but not actually transporting the train - I just think that's odd.

    On that service I posted people take the train to the port town, cross on the ferry and then catch the train at the town they dock in.
    I actually think that it would be a good idea to have a luxury service running from Amsterdam (via Rotterdam) to London which would be literary transported by the ferry so train passengers don't have to walk to the ferry and from the ferry any more (they arrive late at night or in the early morning when there is no direct connection by train so.. it's poorly planned).

    But then again: it could be that there is a difference in railway gauge between Britain and the Netherlands so that's where we could have a problem.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuan Belanda View Post
    I actually think that it would be a good idea to have a luxury service running from Amsterdam (via Rotterdam) to London which would be literary transported by the ferry so train passengers don't have to walk to the ferry and from the ferry any more (they arrive late at night or in the early morning when there is no direct connection by train so.. it's poorly planned).

    But then again: it could be that there is a difference in railway gauge between Britain and the Netherlands so that's where we could have a problem.
    I don't know, I think it's a load of hassle just to save a few minutes walking to the train station really. If it was that much bother then a branch of the train station could go directly to the port and trains could wait there.

    As for rail gauge - I thought we used the same as the rest of Europe? Narrow Gauge is only on Mountain railways like on Snowdonia or the Isle of Man.
    I'm pretty sure High Speed 1 and 2 (if it gets built) will be compatible with Dutch lines. Then again I don't think I'd want such a train on a ferry,i it wouldn't work.

    At the moment the cheapest and easiest option would be to link train and ferry services. This would be a good compromise for the time being anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albion View Post
    Then again I don't think I'd want such a train on a ferry,i it wouldn't work.
    It worked in a lot of countries for a long, long time. It would just be new for many British. The thing is though that the trip from the Hook to Harwich takes 6 to 8 hours and I always found it surprising that the Calais to Dover route never became a train ferry as both ports are within half an hour distance from each other. Instead: they build this ridiculously expensive chunnel.

    Quote Originally Posted by Albion View Post
    At the moment the cheapest and easiest option would be to link train and ferry services. This would be a good compromise for the time being anyway.
    Agreed. But then the timetables of the ferry and train services would have to match because people should not have to wait on freezing cold platforms during the night or early morning. It might also be possible to create a kind of jet bridges from the station to the place where the ferry docks (basically like what you see on airfields) and to the custom services.



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