70% of romance languages are destined to disappear

[Rudel]

The same goes for the Langue D'Oc in France and northwest Italy, the language of the crusaders and trobadours.

Much giggles were had this day.

I guess the rise of some languages over others and the need for standardization in sectors such as the media and education plus the growth of multiculturalism and globalization are having devastating effects on the regional dialects. People need to realize that the death of a language is a big deal. I think that Cajun (or should I say Louisiana Creole?) French is also in danger. I think it differs quite a bit from standard French. There was also an interesting dialect in Canada called Chiac that mixed English and French but I don't think it's a language. Also, the Chipilo Venetian dialect is in great danger because Mexico and the state of Puebla refuses to acknowledge it as a minority language because it is not an indigenous language. I wish people realized that the demographics of language sometimes change but everything must be done to protect a language.

Cajun French is virtually dead. Cajuns who have any education in French are taught standard French.

Dialect of what? Of italian?

I find it weird that every language in Italy is considered a "dialect of Italian" by default.
I remember going on an Italian irredentist forum and people were claiming that La Brigue, as a land were a transitional Ligurian dialect is spoken, is "obviously" of the most Italian stem.
Well I'm claiming all of Northern Italy. How about that, motherfuckers ?

[Dandelion]

The French, wiping out dialects since 1789. I say dialects here, because that used to be part of the strategy until they became a non-threat.

[Peyrol]

Much giggles were had this day.


Cajun French is virtually dead. Cajuns who have any education in French are taught standard French.


I find it weird that every language in Italy is considered a "dialect of Italian" by default.
I remember going on an Italian irredentist forum and people were claiming that La Brigue, has a land were a transitional Ligurian dialect is spoken, is "obviously" of the most Italian stem.
Well I'm claiming all of Northern Italy. How about that, motherfuckers ?

Because of the fascist policy of italianization (something as la vergonha in your land), and later because if you care about north italian languages you're classified automatically as ''leghista'' (except the piemonteis ''occitanists'' of the Valadas which, misteriously, are communists...like the No Tav).

[Rudel]

The French, wiping out dialects since 1789.

The State developed its first linguistic policies against dialects and regional languages during the XVIIth centuries. Before that linguistic activism was rather against Latin (and with that the Church).

Because of the fascist policy of italianization (something as la vergonha in your land), and later because if you care about north italian languages you're classified automatically as ''leghista'' (except the piemonteis ''occitanists'' of the Valadas which, misteriously, are communists...like the No Tav).

Well, let's be fair. Occitanists, in Italy or elsewhere, are fuckin' commies.

[Dandelion]

The State developed its first linguistic policies against dialects and regional languages during the XVIIth centuries. Before that linguistic activism was rather against Latin (and with that the Church).

Yeah, I know the Académie Française is a 17th century institution. However, it is post-revolutionary France that really started to get the ball rolling in wiping out anything that isn't Standard French.

Say what one wills though. French standardisation was more succesful than Franco's in the 20th century in Spain, and France suffers from for less instability as a result as well (in practice Catalan was 'tolerated' under Franco, despite the ban on speaking it).

[Peyrol]

Well, let's be fair. Occitanists, in Italy or elsewhere, are fuckin' commies.

Yep and i never understood why

But many of them do great music indeed

[Peyrol]

Btw, yesterday i was looking at this (i take the pic for the funny ''merda di can'', dog shit in venetian) and i was wondering how a ''pizza niçoise'' can be made, lol.

[Rudel]

Yep and i never understood why

The Occistanist movement is purely and simply a mutation of the working-class socialism and protest of Languedoc. I think there's a similar tradition in Piémont. In the meantime the Félibrige movement was born within conservative circles. That's why they're usually at odds, and why Occitanism doesn't really take in Gascony, Limousin or Provence and why the Estivada is in Rodez.

But many of them do great music indeed

Such exportation. The tune is Provençal, BTW. Or maybe medieval. But I know it from somewhere, can't say though.

Btw, yesterday i was looking at this (i take the pic for the funny ''merda di can'', dog shit in venetian) and i was wondering how a ''pizza niçoise'' can be made, lol.

It means the same in Nissard. I think it's a kind of gnocchis, that look that little dogs shits.

[Comte Arnau]

The French, wiping out dialects since 1789. I say dialects here, because that used to be part of the strategy until they became a non-threat.

The series of bans on the Catalan language in France and promotion of the French language among Northern Catalans had already started one century before.

[Peyrol]

Such exportation. The tune is Provençal, BTW. Or maybe medieval. But I know it from somewhere, can't say though.

The original tune si furlan, btw....Scjarazule Maraçule, by Gjorgj Mayner (''Giorgio Mainero'' in standard italian)


Lyric:

Scjaraçule maraçule la lusigne la cracule
la piçule si niçule, di polvar a si tacule
Scjaraçule maraçule, cu la rucule la cocule
la fantate e jè une trapule
il fantat al è un trapolon