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    The languages ​​exist to serve humanity, not the inverse, therefore it is correct.

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    In the west almost all Spain had been subjugated, except that part which adjoins the cliffs where the Pyrenees end and is washed by the nearer waters of the ocean. Here two powerful nations, the Cantabrians and the Asturians, lived in freedom from the rule of Rome.")
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    Languages do come and go overtime. And there were many lost languages that went extinct when Neolithic farmers showed up displacing the Paleo ones and then finally when the Indo-Europeans speakers arrived during the Bronze Age.

    I'd really like to see one of the more extreme expressions of linguistic preservation take place:

    The return to Proto-Indo-European.

    We could also take it a step further and wish for Greenburg's Proto-Nostratic to be revived if we are so brazen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vesuvian Sky View Post
    That's an interesting point regarding Piemontese although one could also say a language thrives over others simply since it has influence and hence why the Florentine dialect of Italian became "standard Italian". Florence had I suppose you could say more literary/artistic influence at the time. I know the most widespread use of "Italian" in literature was indeed the Florentine dialect and that played a major role in "standardizing" "Italian".
    Tuscan was the language of Science, Art, Literature and Innovation...the quintessence of Renaissance.
    This is the main reason for the choice...therefore, all the italian Peninsuula would speak piemontese (the language of the ''conquerors''), a gallo-romance language.

    Quote Originally Posted by Permafrost View Post
    So it would seem. Many of these are unfortunately lost due to the crimes perpetrated on ethnic Italians who settled outside of the contemporary borders of Italy during Venetian rule. Others are being lost today because of massive immigration policies, both internal and external.



    My latin teacher was one of the few living people who could speak it. An odd language, at times the lexicon would seem completely venetian (example, la ciave, la piasa etc.), at others something as alien as Furlan (lumaca - coguja, gabbiano - cucal etc.)

    Comunque Dante l'ha chiamata 'La lingua dei cani' nel De vulgari eloquentia, se non erro...
    That's true about some colonial venetic variations (venetic istriots, piranese, venetian of Boka Kotorska), but not about proper istriot, that wasn't a venetian dialect, but a proper romance language, heavy related with the extinct dalmatian and with modern romanian...

    Quote Originally Posted by Daniele90 View Post
    I would not be that sure about Neapolitan.. the Apulian "variant" spoken here is heavily mixed with Italian to this day, especially by the youth; what has remained is a dialect with many italianisms but also mostly used for typical and every day expressions, rather than long discourses.. I expect it's the same for other parts of the South, don't be "fooled" by typical Southern stereotypes (although in this case it'd be not bad if it was true).. actually, I think Venetic is in a better position
    It isn't a list of mine, but by ethnologue...you can chech the status of these languages on the official site.


    I'm surprised about emilian and romagnňl...i thought they were in a better position.

    Venetic is definitely the ''regional'' language who is still vigorous and used...also Forlan, even if is declining.

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    Such a pity Catalan is on the first list

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    This is disappointing. Especially since some of the ones going extinct are the most conservative with regards to Latin, like Sardinian, Aromanian, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Permafrost View Post

    Comunque Dante l'ha chiamata 'La lingua dei cani' nel De vulgari eloquentia, se non erro...
    Dante also called piemontese ''odd alpine language, an occitanolombard blasphemy''...

    It seems that the Sommo Poeta disliked many of the italic languages, especially the galloromance ones...

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    One that is extinct but not listed is Ladino (the Sephardic equivalent to Yiddish).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    One that is extinct but not listed is Ladino (the Sephardic equivalent to Yiddish).
    There are a lot of romano-jew languages which aren't in the extinct list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baluarte View Post
    Such a pity Catalan is on the first list
    Lol, why?

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    I'd rather save Occitan than Catalan for the sheer fact that the transition of French to Italian is a huge change where having Occitan spoken between the two is a gradual change as you move south.

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