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    Aboriginal Australians, also referred to as Aboriginals, are people whose ancestors were indigenous to the Australian continent— that is, to mainland Australia or to the island of Tasmania—before British colonisation of the continent began in 1788. Since 1995, the Australian Aboriginal Flag (right), designed in 1971 by the Aboriginal artist Harold Thomas, has been one of the official "Flags of Australia" under section 5 of the Flags Act 1953.[3] About 20% of land in Northern Australia (Kimberley (Western Australia), Top End and Cape York) is now Aboriginal-owned.[4]








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    Quote Originally Posted by Amun View Post
    Truly living "missing links"... It's like seeing Homo Erectus in flesh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aherne View Post
    Truly living "missing links"... It's like seeing Homo Erectus in flesh.
    These are probably ''Denisovan'' vibes in them.

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    I watched a documentary where the Aboriginal Australians refereed to themselves as black. But honestly i think they form their own race.

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    The most archaic race. Interesting.

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    Interesting article

    Aboriginal genes suggest Indian migration


    AUSTRALIA MIGHT NOT have been as isolated for the 40,000 years prior to European colonisation as once thought, according to a new study which has found evidence of substantial gene flow between Indian populations and Australia about 4000 years ago.

    The research also suggests the dingo might have arrived on Australian shores about that time – along with tool technology and food processing – though other experts are sceptical.

    “This is very exciting work and may well resolve a major scientific conundrum.” says Associate Professor Darren Curnoe at the University of New South Wales in Sydney, who adds that scientists have speculated about this possible ancient connection for 200 years.
    Australian aboriginals had early contact

    The study, published today in the journal PNAS, says it was commonly assumed that Australia remained largely isolated following initial colonisation some 40,000 years ago, though the genetic history of Aboriginal people has not been explored in detail.

    Dr Irina Pugach and Dr Mark Stoneking, of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Germany, joined colleagues in analysing large-scale genotyping data from Aboriginal Australians, New Guineans, Island Southeast Asians and Indians that suggest a new possibility.

    The authors found a common origin for populations in Australia, New Guinea and the Mamanwa (a Negrito group from the Philippines) and estimated these groups split from each other about 36,000 years ago.

    The researchers say this supports the view that these groups represent the descendants of an ancient southwards migration out of Africa. They also found a substantial gene flow from India to Australia 141 generations ago, or 4230 years ago, assuming a generation span of 30 years.
    Gene flow from India to Australia

    "This is also approximately when changes in tool technology, food processing, and the dingo appear in the Australian archaeological record, suggesting that these may be related to the migration from India," the authors write, though they add that the Indian genes might not have come directly from India.

    These genes could not have arrived during the initial migration to Australia 40,000 years ago because they are absent from the New Guinean and Mamanwa genomes. Also, they are too uniformly spread across northern Aboriginal genomes to have come from European colonists.

    Associate Professor Joe Dortch of the University of Western Australia in Perth says the findings are significant, and questions whether there was some kind of migration or simply occasional contact. “It’s not possible to say how the connection to India arose,” he told Australian Geographic.

    “But expansion of trading or exploration activity by a culture or group of cultures called the Austronesians may be a factor... [as] the ancestors of northern Australians, like those who were involved in the study, had more contact with Asian peoples than other Australians.”

    Associate Professor Jeremy Austin from the University of Adelaide says that the study highlights the fine-scale knowledge that can be obtained from genome data, but adds that the results need to be interpreted carefully.

    “The authors do not estimate the number of migrants involved that could have carried this genetic signature from India, “he says. “In theory, this could have been a very small number of people. Thus, any lay-interpretation of the results that boatloads of Indian fishermen arrived on the coast of Australia, bringing new technologies, may not be accurate.”
    Could dingoes have arrived with Indian migration?

    Jeremy is sceptical about the claims related to the arrival of dingoes in Australia.

    “Genetic data for dingoes suggests they came from Island Southeast Asia, not India. So linking the human genetic evidence to the idea that they also imported a range of new technologies and dingoes is something that needs further investigation,” he says.

    “The important result of this paper is that it supports previous ideas about trade and movement of people between Australia and Asia over a long period of time.”

    The Australian samples came from a broad area of the Northern Territory, and as a result may not be representative of the indigenous populations across the rest of the continent.

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    Very impressive people. I like their primeval way of life.

    You should watch the movie called Where the Green Ants Dream which is about the confrontation between the modern economic society and the native people's will to save a small sacred patch of earth.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Amun View Post
    I watched a documentary where the Aboriginal Australians refereed to themselves as black. But honestly i think they form their own race.
    They are their own race, and in fact they have a lower IQ than blacks. Very primitive people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roys View Post
    These are probably ''Denisovan'' vibes in them.
    Enough to set these individuals apart light years from Human specie. Compare them to Neanderthals (considered a "different specie"), who looked SO MUCH more human:

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    You actually won't find many modern-day Aboriginals who still look like unreduced Australoids. They're primarily relegated to indigenous outback communities in remote Central Australia.

    The majority of Aborigines are what we call "half-caste" or quarter-caste individuals; they have significant Caucasoid ancestry and look more like this:

    Boxer/Former Rugby Player, Anthony Mundine


    Actress, Deborah Mailman:


    Footballer, David Wirrpanda:


    Footballer, Adam Goodes:


    Boxer, Daniel Geale, who is of 1/4 Aboriginal ancestry:


    Their mythology and history might be romanticised by some, but honestly, modern-day Aborigines are a sorry sight from a socio-economic/cultural stand-point and they really have almost connection to their forefathers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Amun View Post
    I watched a documentary where the Aboriginal Australians refereed to themselves as black.
    Yeah they do but in some part I think that stems from the experience of African-Americans in the US and the way Aborigines have applied some aspects of the American civil rights movement to their national awakening, here in Australia. A lot of them do emulate African-American culture to some degree; even down to the slang.

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    The Australian samples came from a broad area of the Northern Territory, and as a result may not be representative of the indigenous populations across the rest of the continent.
    It's likely Aboriginals do not represent one historical migration.

    A famous excavated burial called "Lake Mungo Man", represents the oldest fossilized remains of humans in Australia (40,000 to 68,000 years ago) and his extracted MtDNA is very different from modern-day Aborigines.

    Some people take this as evidence to support the multi-regional origin of modern humans but in my opinion, it's just likely that Australia was settled by waves of Australoids from Southern India, Polynesian/Melanesians from the Pacific (along the Eastern shores) and Negrito-like populations from South-East Asia/Indonesia/Papua New Guinea (along the Northern shores).

    Aboriginal culture is not homogenous or uniform in the slightest; Aborigines spoke some 1,000 different languages belonging to 15 different language families (most of which are not mutually intelligible) and were divided into hundreds of different tribal or social groupings:


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