Ottoman appreciation thread

[Mehmet]

What would have happened to your nation if Battle of Vienna in 1683 had failed?

Turks wouldn't have gang raped you like Rus did in 1940's.
Wouldn't that be enough?

Apparently Bosnians appreciate the Ottomans much more than Turks. Well; actually that applies to many other converts. In Turkey; most Ottoman fetishist/islamists are of non-Turk ethnicities who were Sunnificated. No wonder why the Black Seans (It was Pontus once upon a time) are regarded as the most conservative nationalists.

Maybe it's about "self-realization" efforts?

Nope. None can.
You Hindutva-looking Zazaki-Armenian. You aren't Turk yourself to begin with. How can you feel what we feel when you are different than us.
Turks appreciate The Ottomans more than anyone else.
That's why Turks vote for political parties embracing Ottoman legacy:
Such as Akp who embraces its imperialism,
or Mhp, having Ottoman flag as its own political flag, who appreciates Ottomans' racial roots.

Only non-Turk, Sectarian non-Sunni, butthurt baboons like you dislike Ottomans and vote for political parties who don't embrace Ottoman legacy.

You are like Blacks voting for Democrats in US, or Immigrants in Europe who vote for Socialists.

[Mehmet]

Ottoman Turks' culture - the Turco-Islamic civilization:






Ottoman military power:




Ottoman empire has been one of the top 3 greatest empires having ever existed.

[Funda]

I like ottoman clothing

[meralodem]

Despite the sincere efforts Poles cannot appreciate Ottomans due to historical reasons

Really?? Even the times you officially didnt have your country, Ottomans still kept your ambassadors in court

[meralodem]

Ottomans were respectful to property rights and foundations flourished, there were foundations which were distributing free inks, very different foundations I once read and was kinda shocked. Plus the system of lodge of professions were also very organised, for example if you sell a burnt bread and get caught you were either getting killed or sent to a prison in Cyprus. Ottomans were also making neighbourhoods for different minorities away from each other, so they were not feeling like being assimilated, there wasnt something like '' noble '' blood lines, the system was very open for people who wanted to prove themselves and get promoted

Ottomans didnt sell the land of Palestinians to the jews even though they offered money plus as it came out lately they also offered their press-intelligence in england

Lets say a jew was getting on jewish court, if he was not satisfied with the court he belongs to he could come to the islamic court and choose to be put on trial by islamic or jewish laws

[Kemalisté]

I'm glad we kicked their asses. AKP fanboys are still so butthurt about it and they're trying to revive it back, which is no more than a ridiculous utopic struggle.

The name of the fascist Alevi murderer son of a bitch called "Selim" has been given to the planned third bosphorus bridge. But that won't last long, of course. We'll change it to Pir Sultan Abdal.

[Kiyant]

I'm glad we kicked their asses.

First all people in Turkey like the ottomans.
Second most people dislike the last period of the ottomans were they were weak and backward
And at last Atatürk was also proud of his ottoman ancestors

[HellLander87]

Lol @ ottoman appreciation.That is a fucking oxymoron.

[Kemalisté]

First all people in Turkey like the ottomans

Only AKP voters and a part of MHP voters which won't even surpass %60. Kemalists/CHP voters hate the Ottomans. I won't reject that Ottomans are loved by many people but there's not a general censensus over it. Alevis themselves make up %20. I believe at least %30-35 of the population doesn't like them.

There's no way a conscious Turk could love Ottomans. They had been a dark curtain over Turkishness for centuries.

And at last Atatürk was also proud of his ottoman ancestors

"Sovereignty and sultanate could not be given by anyone to anyone with talk or with dispute because it was the implementation. Sovereignty and sultanate was taken with power, capacity and force. Ottomans had kept with force the Turkish nation’s sovereignty and sultanate and they had continued this for six centuries. And now, the Turkish nation has declared clearly her sovereignty and sultanate by rebelling. This was immediately done. What is discussed, is it not whether we will leave the sultanate and sovereignty to the nation herself? The discussion is essentially real. But how can we declare this reality? It will certainly be. If those gathered here, The Assembly and everybody sees the issue as normal, I think that this is the time. Otherwise again the realities will be declared as necessary. But the probability is, some heads may be cut off." 1922 (The Speech II, p. g. 691 )

Note: Sultanate can be also translated as "domination", shouldn't be taken as a way of governance.

Please don't try to make stupid claims about Ataturk again. Obviously you haven't even read his book, The Speech. If you have; you could see there are much harsher statements, damnations and cursings about Ottomans in the book. Ataturk hated this family as hell. Ottoman family should have ended up the same way Romanovs did; one of the things I criticize about Ataturk.

[Kiyant]

Only AKP voters and a part of MHP voters which won't even surpass %60. Kemalists/CHP voters hate the Ottomans. I won't reject that Ottomans are loved by many people but there's not a general censensus over it. Alevis themselves make up %20. I believe at least %30-35 of the population doesn't like them.

There's no way a conscious Turk could love Ottomans. They had been a dark curtain over Turkishness for centuries.



"Sovereignty and sultanate could not be given by anyone to anyone with talk or with dispute because it was the implementation. Sovereignty and sultanate was taken with power, capacity and force. Ottomans had kept with force the Turkish nation’s sovereignty and sultanate and they had continued this for six centuries. And now, the Turkish nation has declared clearly her sovereignty and sultanate by rebelling. This was immediately done. What is discussed, is it not whether we will leave the sultanate and sovereignty to the nation herself? The discussion is essentially real. But how can we declare this reality? It will certainly be. If those gathered here, The Assembly and everybody sees the issue as normal, I think that this is the time. Otherwise again the realities will be declared as necessary. But the probability is, some heads may be cut off." 1922 (The Speech II, p. g. 691 )

You took out the second thing i wrote that most only hate the lat period also i know many CHP member who love the ottomans and their history of culture and conquest but hate how they became decadent and weak