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    Ataturk can easily be appreciated in Europe

    Along with his traits and beliefs, he was addicted to genocides, and as we know European hands back then were painted with the blood of deads in their 3rd world colonies, too bad he worked for a country inhabited 60% by Asians and probably some 40% by eurasians (Europeans were expelled)

    The Asian majority lately regains control of the country, especially after the referendum

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    "He was a soldier-statesman, one of the greatest leaders of our era. He ensured that Turkey got its rightful place among the most advanced nations of the world. He has given to Turks the sense of self-confidence and endurance to the Turks, that forms the foundation stone of a nation's greatness. I take great pride in being one of Atatürk's loyal friends."

    General Douglas MACARTHUR, Commander-in-Chief of the Far East Forces, U.S.A.

    "In connection with the permanent memorial facility for Kemal Atatürk, I take pride in presenting my congratulations to Turkey. Your great country that is advancing on the course that he demonstrated has obtained very significant successes. This ceremony that is being held to commemorate the memory of Atatürk, the architect of progress and Turkish unity, is a very appropriate respect to a person who became a source of inspiration to free peoples throughout the world."

    Dwight D. Eisenhower, President of the United States of America

    "During a conversation with the Foreign Affairs Minister of the Soviet Union, Litvinov, I asked him who was, according to him, the most valuable and remarkable statesman of Europe. He replied that, the most valuable and interesting leader in the world was the President of the Turkish Republic, Mustafa Kemal Ataturk."

    Franklin D. ROOSEVELT (U.S. President, 1928)

    "My sorrow is that, it is no longer possible to fulfill my strong wish to meet this great man."

    Franklin D. ROOSEVELT (U.S. President, 10 November 1963)

    One of the most talented leaders of the after war period.

    New York Times

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    From the stage of the world passed one of the most attentive and attractive men of history.

    Chicago Tribune

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    He had an embracing-like extraordinary leadership strength. He was vigilant, energetic, and intelligent.

    Gladys Baker (Reporter)

    "The death of Atatürk, who saved Turkey during the war and revived the Turkish nation, is not only a loss for his country, but it is also a great loss for Europe. The sincere tears that people from all classes have shed, are nothing more then the true reflection of this great man - the Father of the modern Turkey.

    The sincere tears shed after him by all classes of people is nothing other than an appropriate manifestation to this great hero and modern Turkey's Ata."

    Winston CHURCHILL, Prime Minister of the United Kingdom (1938)

    "The centuries rarely produce a genius. Look at this bad luck of ours, that great genius of our era was granted to the Turkish nation."

    D. Lloyd George, Prime Minister of the United Kingdom

    Ataturk is one of the leading statesmen of the after war period. He formed a class on his own and he was unique from all points. The Fortnightly
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    Europe has lost one of the few creative statesmen that have appeared after the war. Spectator
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    In our age no name has created such great respect, as has done the name Atatürk. Observer

    Atatürk has realized the miracle of modernizing a society in just a few years.

    Paris-Le Temps

    In a country where all existing titles have been removed, this man has earned all titles. In that country, the most honorable name has been given to him.

    Mercel Sauvage(Journalist)

    The work that he has achieved through intelligent and peaceful methods will leave traces in the history of mankind.

    Albert LEBRUN (French President)

    A revolutionist and a rebel , then a glorious commander, the “Father of Turks” has created the New Turkey, expelled the sultans, has given freedom to women, abolished the fez and made a radical revolution in his country.

    From Paris-Soir

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gizem View Post
    "He was a soldier-statesman, one of the greatest leaders of our era. He ensured that Turkey got its rightful place among the most advanced nations of the world. He has given to Turks the sense of self-confidence and endurance to the Turks, that forms the foundation stone of a nation's greatness. I take great pride in being one of Atatürk's loyal friends."

    General Douglas MACARTHUR, Commander-in-Chief of the Far East Forces, U.S.A.

    "In connection with the permanent memorial facility for Kemal Atatürk, I take pride in presenting my congratulations to Turkey. Your great country that is advancing on the course that he demonstrated has obtained very significant successes. This ceremony that is being held to commemorate the memory of Atatürk, the architect of progress and Turkish unity, is a very appropriate respect to a person who became a source of inspiration to free peoples throughout the world."

    Dwight D. Eisenhower, President of the United States of America

    "During a conversation with the Foreign Affairs Minister of the Soviet Union, Litvinov, I asked him who was, according to him, the most valuable and remarkable statesman of Europe. He replied that, the most valuable and interesting leader in the world was the President of the Turkish Republic, Mustafa Kemal Ataturk."

    Franklin D. ROOSEVELT (U.S. President, 1928)

    "My sorrow is that, it is no longer possible to fulfill my strong wish to meet this great man."

    Franklin D. ROOSEVELT (U.S. President, 10 November 1963)

    One of the most talented leaders of the after war period.

    New York Times

    _

    From the stage of the world passed one of the most attentive and attractive men of history.

    Chicago Tribune

    _

    He had an embracing-like extraordinary leadership strength. He was vigilant, energetic, and intelligent.

    Gladys Baker (Reporter)

    "The death of Atatürk, who saved Turkey during the war and revived the Turkish nation, is not only a loss for his country, but it is also a great loss for Europe. The sincere tears that people from all classes have shed, are nothing more then the true reflection of this great man - the Father of the modern Turkey.

    The sincere tears shed after him by all classes of people is nothing other than an appropriate manifestation to this great hero and modern Turkey's Ata."

    Winston CHURCHILL, Prime Minister of the United Kingdom (1938)

    "The centuries rarely produce a genius. Look at this bad luck of ours, that great genius of our era was granted to the Turkish nation."

    D. Lloyd George, Prime Minister of the United Kingdom

    Ataturk is one of the leading statesmen of the after war period. He formed a class on his own and he was unique from all points. The Fortnightly
    _

    Europe has lost one of the few creative statesmen that have appeared after the war. Spectator
    _

    In our age no name has created such great respect, as has done the name Atatürk. Observer

    Atatürk has realized the miracle of modernizing a society in just a few years.

    Paris-Le Temps

    In a country where all existing titles have been removed, this man has earned all titles. In that country, the most honorable name has been given to him.

    Mercel Sauvage(Journalist)

    The work that he has achieved through intelligent and peaceful methods will leave traces in the history of mankind.

    Albert LEBRUN (French President)

    A revolutionist and a rebel , then a glorious commander, the “Father of Turks” has created the New Turkey, expelled the sultans, has given freedom to women, abolished the fez and made a radical revolution in his country.

    From Paris-Soir
    How is the reanimation process going? How long shall it take to raise the zombie of Ataturk from the grave to lead you once more? Didn't I tell you to call the support of the Yankees to solve this problem?



    We got tired of waiting ma'am. If you are waiting to do it after Sultan Mad Terrorist is dead to reanimate Ataturk, you are in for a surprise, they shall reanimate Sultan Mad Terrorist before you have a chance to reanimate Ataturk!!!

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    We must note that Atatürk and his followers had the ability to run a state, especially in Foreign Policy. If you relatively compare with ignorant, deluded and losers who pretended they will 'restore Ottomania, but got crushed, you will understand the value, vision and ability of Atatürk.

    Also that he was drinking alcohol isn't a big deal and he wasn't the first. Many, likely most Turkish/Turkoman leaders used to drink.

    See from the Middle Ages, accounts about Ilghazi bey (Artukid).

    Ilghazi gained control of Aleppo after the assassination of Lulu in 1117. In 1118 he took control of Mayyafiriqin and pacified the surrounding countryside. In 1119 Ilghazi defeated and killed Roger at the Battle of Ager Sanguinis; Ibn al-Qalanisi describes the victory as "one of the finest of victories, and such plenitude of divine aid was never granted to Islam in all its past ages." The Antiochene towns of Atharib, Zerdana, Sarmin, Ma'arrat al-Numan and Kafartab fell to his army. "Il Ghazi, however, was unable to extract full profit from his victory. His prolonged drunkenness deprived his army of leadership, and left the Turkmens free to ... scatter after plunder.

    Ibn al-Qalanisi is generally neutral on the character of Ilghazi, and describes only one "disgraceful habit" of the emir: "Now when Ilghazi drank wine and it got the better of him, he habitually remained for several days in a state of intoxication, without recovering his senses sufficiently to take control or to be consulted on any matter or decision." The Antiochene chronicler Walter the Chancellor was at first also neutral towards Ilghazi, until the Battle of Ager Sanguinis, in which Walter himself was captured; Ilghazi (written as "Algazi" in Latin) is then described as a "tyrant" and the "prince of the delusion and dissent of the Turcomans." Walter also remarks on Ilghazi's drunkenness.
    This might be exaggerations but if we must believe accounts (coming both from Arabs and Franks), he was drinking a lot more than Atatürk
    And Ilghazi is a liked guy like Atatürk and he ended as a succesful local leader.
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    Yeah continue to worship Ataturk. You do the worship we fulfill the Ataturk's legacy to reach the level of contemporary civilizations and even a higher level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkSecret View Post
    Yeah continue to worship Ataturk. You do the worship we fulfill the Ataturk's legacy to reach the level of contemporary civilizations and even a higher level.
    Laz and Georgians aint Caucasian keep dreaming.

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    Türkiye, kendisine din olarak Kemalizmi almış, başka hiçbir dine hayat hakkı tanımayarak kitlelere zorla dikte ettirmiştir. Oysa en üst belirleyici İslam'ın ilkeleridir. Her şey ona göre belirlenir.

    Tell me what Ataturk did for the country....... Under Erdoğan Turkey has been the most prosperous it has ever been since its founding. Turkey is now the 16th strongest economy in the world. Turkey opening trade with the Middle East has brought in 32 billion dollars a year. What did CHP and the Kemalist do besides run the country into the ground. The value of the Turkish Lira is up. Turkey national debt has decreased. It was not too long ago that parts of Istanbul did not have water, now look at Turkey it is so modern. Erdoğan has done more for the country then Atatürk every did. Economically there is no denying that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tahir0010 View Post
    Türkiye, kendisine din olarak Kemalizmi almış, başka hiçbir dine hayat hakkı tanımayarak kitlelere zorla dikte ettirmiştir. Oysa en üst belirleyici İslam'ın ilkeleridir. Her şey ona göre belirlenir.

    Tell me what Ataturk did for the country....... Under Erdoğan Turkey has been the most prosperous it has ever been since its founding. Turkey is now the 16th strongest economy in the world. Turkey opening trade with the Middle East has brought in 32 billion dollars a year. What did CHP and the Kemalist do besides run the country into the ground. The value of the Turkish Lira is up. Turkey national debt has decreased. It was not too long ago that parts of Istanbul did not have water, now look at Turkey it is so modern. Erdoğan has done more for the country then Atatürk every did. Economically there is no denying that.
    We cannot compare Ataturk's time and now. But Erdogan is surely as succesful as Ataturk was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkSecret View Post
    We cannot compare Ataturk's time and now. But Erdogan is surely as succesful as Ataturk was.
    It must be by Middle Eastern standards. LOL. You know they would think that around Urfa etc.

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