3000 years ago, would the people of Italy have been lighter or darker than Italians today?

[Sikeliot]

This to me is an "Italic" appearance:

[Smeagol]

So therefore you think that Greeks, Phoenicians, Normans had limited impact and that those regions have remained virtually unchanged.

I suspect that Sicilians and Calabrese, although initially Italic in some areas, were Italic by language and had minor input of Italic blood but would have been mostly descended from the Neolithic peoples there before.

I think the Normans had basically no genetic impact, and light features in Sicily are Italic. The Greeks, and Phoenicians had agenetic impact, but they were probably about as light as the Sicilian natives, with the Greeks being a bit lighter.

[Sikeliot]

I think the Normans had basically no genetic impact, and light features in Sicily are Italic. The Greeks, and Phoenicians had agenetic impact, but they were probably about as light as the Sicilian natives, with the Greeks being a bit lighter.

Normans had an influence around Palermo on the northwest coast, but not much beyond that. What modern group would you assume the original Sicilians were closest to? We know there was an Italic speaking group in the east, a non-Indo European group of unknown origin in the center, and an Anatolian group in the west. But that was linguistics. Genetically there may not have been much divergence.

If you believe that the Italics and Greeks were lighter, then you would be supporting that Sicilians are darker today than back then.

[Smeagol]

Normans had an influence around Palermo on the northwest coast, but not much beyond that. What modern group would you assume the original Sicilians were closest to? We know there was an Italic speaking group in the east, a non-Indo European group of unknown origin in the center, and an Anatolian group in the west. But that was linguistics. Genetically there may not have been much divergence.

I guess ancient Sicilians would be closest to modern Sicilians, I'm not sure.

If you believe that the Italics and Greeks were lighter, then you would be supporting that Sicilians are darker today than back then.

The Phoenicians were probably a bit darker than the native Sicilians, so overall I'd say they're about the same as they were.

[Sikeliot]

I guess ancient Sicilians would be closest to modern Sicilians, I'm not sure.



The Phoenicians were probably a bit darker than the native Sicilians, so overall I'd say they're about the same as they were.

But Phoenicians became part of the gene pool. The people there before must have been lighter than that.

I'm looking on Facebook through people's friends lists from Catania (an Italic area, then Greek) and blue eyes are very rare and I've only seen one blonde so far. I'll look in Umbria and Lazio to see how common "Italic" looks are there too.

[Shah-Jehan]

But Phoenicians became part of the gene pool. The people there before must have been lighter than that.

I'm looking on Facebook through people's friends lists from Catania (an Italic area, then Greek) and blue eyes are very rare and I've only seen one blonde so far. I'll look in Umbria and Lazio to see how common "Italic" looks are there too.

You seriously stalk people?

[Sikeliot]

You seriously stalk people?

It's not stalking. Facebook profiles are public. I'm just counting how many blue eyes I find

[Ianus]

Genetically speaking Italy is like pre Roman age. I don't think that successive invasions have influenced the genetic stoc. More or less the appearence is the same of ancient times.

[Styrian Mujo]

The Italics were light ofcourse, however the pre-italic Italians would have probably looked like Sardianians with northren Italians being abit lighter even before the Italic invasion. It gets complicated when you realise that there was some immigration from the middle east and north africa and it is hard to say what kind of an impact it had but I can imagine the coastal cities of Italy being filled with forigners from all over the Empire, I can picture the crowded markets,shady criminals,beggers on the streets etc.

[Prince Carlo]

The only beggers, you could find in Italy, usually come from Bosnia and the likes.