Haplogroup l2b, the Haplogroup that unites Scandinavians, Germans, British, Russians and Greeks

[RussiaPrussia]

http://www.eupedia.com/europe/origin...urope.shtml#I2



opinions?

[Artek]

This haplogroup must predate arise of a "modern" cultures, since we can find separate branches in Celts, Slavs and Germanics.

Obviously, it's found in low frequencies anywhere, just in Germany somewhat managed to survive or got lower casualties than in other areas. The percentages in the article are too exagerrated (they say about I2a2-I2b peaking up to 20% in Central and Northern Germany - it's not true in any case,it reaches just around 10% in some areas), map seems to be more accurate in that matter.

And a second thing - the article consists unproven informations that I2a2's were a megalithic builders. Proven megalithic builders were I2a1, more connected with contemporary Sardinian I2.
I hope I've helped.

[Fire Haired]

This means nothing I2a2 is a Y DNa haplogroups which is passed down from father to son it only tell ur direct male line like a last name not ur full ancestry. There are many y DNa haplogroups that are found in Scandnavia, Germany, Greece, and Russia so what.

[Stefan_Dusan]

Just note, your thread is about I2a2 but your map is I2b

[Artek]

Just note, your thread is about I2a2 but your map is I2b

ISOGG changed a nomenclature but people are used to I2b instead of I2a2. Everything is right here.

[1stLightHorse]

This is my haplogroup....can someone tell me which area of Germany that is where it reaches highest frequency?

[Insuperable]

This is my haplogroup....can someone tell me which area of Germany that is where it reaches highest frequency?

Well just look at the OP to see where I2b is widespread. If you mean I2b1 specifically I am not sure, probably similar to the map above. Northern Germany probably.

[1stLightHorse]

This haplogroup must predate arise of a "modern" cultures, since we can find separate branches in Celts, Slavs and Germanics.

Obviously, it's found in low frequencies anywhere, just in Germany somewhat managed to survive or got lower casualties than in other areas. The percentages in the article are too exagerrated (they say about I2a2-I2b peaking up to 20% in Central and Northern Germany - it's not true in any case,it reaches just around 10% in some areas), map seems to be more accurate in that matter.

And a second thing - the article consists unproven informations that I2a2's were a megalithic builders. Proven megalithic builders were I2a1, more connected with contemporary Sardinian I2.
I hope I've helped.

Why do you think I1 is so high in Germany? Why do you think they survived the Neolithic invasions better in the North? Were they more warlike?

[Artek]

... Something was wrong either with forum or with my broadband connection

[Artek]

Why do you think I1 is so high in Germany? Why do you think they survived the Neolithic invasions better in the North? Were they more warlike?

I1 is probably late neolithic itself because it spread with eneolithic Corded Ware as a remnant from uncertain culture. And no, I1 is not so high in Germany, according to Eupedia's frequencies it's like 16 %, the same as R1a frequency.
We can rather exclude that I1's were in Germany before Neolithic period.