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Thread: Japanese are not Jomon / Ainu descendants but diluted Okinawans and Yayoi.

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    Default Japanese are not Jomon / Ainu descendants but diluted Okinawans and Yayoi.

    It is commonly believed that Japanese were descendant of Yayoi and Jomon, and genetics also shows they do have both Yayoi and Jomon blood. However Japanese have only 7-20% Jomon blood while Okinawans have 17-23%.

    Modern Japanese have 17% Jomon mtDNA and 40% Jomon Y-DNA however the paternal and maternal DNA of Japanese came from Okinawans rather than Jomon/Ainu.





    Research shows Ainu and Okinawans more genetically related
    http://japandailypress.com/research-...lated-0217724/


    Recent findings in the field of genetics have shown that the Ainu of Hokkaido and the native people of Okinawa share similar inherited traits. This is despite the fact that the two peoples live in polar opposites of Japan’s islands.


    The research, a joint effort by the National Institute of Genetics, the University of Tokyo, and other institutions, involved examining DNA samples from 36 Ainu collected and stored about 30 years ago and comparing them with DNA from 35 native Okinawans, 245 Japanese living in Honshu, Japan’s largest and main island, as well as ethnic Han Chinese in Beijing. The results revealed that Ainu DNA most closely resembled those of people who have lived in Okinawa for generations. Ainus also shared inherited traits, but to a lesser degree, with modern-day Japanese from Honshu. Professor Naruya Saito from the Division of Population Genetics in the National Institute of Genetics pointed out that this situation was contrary to the norm where genetic traits diverge as the distance between peoples grow.

    The findings also showed that the Japanese living in Honshu displayed genetic similarities with South Koreans and Chinese, supporting the theory that the Japanese people originated from the intermarrying of two different groups: the Yayoi who migrated from the Asian continent, and the Jomon who where native to the islands of Honshu and Kyushu. It is the genetic characteristics of the original Jomon genome that the findings showed to be more prevalent in the Ainu and native Okinawans. The results of the research will be published in the Journal of Human Genetics on November 1.



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    I'll try to link the study with google translation later, for some reason it won't allow be to copy and paste the material here.


    I've also asked a Japanese youtuber who created the video " origin of Japanese DNA " he now thinks the theory Japanese are mixture of Okinawans and Yayoi makes more sense.

    The mixture of Yayoi and Jomon started in Okinawa and southern Japan, later Japanese with similar genetic profile to Okinawans in DNA migrated north of Japan and mixed with another arrival of Yayoi migrants and later migrated to others parts of Japanese. these mixture made Japanese from the north, central, south more Yayoi. While those Ainu from Hokkaido and the Okinawans retained higher Jomon blood, Japanese on the other hand kept adsorbing Yayoi blood.


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    Okinawans have 27% Jomon mtDNA M7a and N9b with 56% Jomon Y-DNA D2 with about 17-23% Jomon blood and 77-80% Yayoi blood. They also have lower frequencies of O2b and O3


    The difference is that Japanese acquired an extra 3-13% Yayoi blood from the Yayoi era with higher frequencies of O2b, O3 and lower D2 and M7a, N9b.

    Physically Okinawans and Japanese are almost physically indistinguishable



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    It must also be mentioned modern that Ainu are from 20- 80% Jomon and 20-80% Yayoi

    Many Ainu are basically indistinguishable from Okinawans and Japanese.

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    Here is facial reconstruction of Jomon


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    Interesting.

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    They look fully mongoloid, no caucasoid admixture among them.
    Japanese look East Asian since Ainu are more hairy and look more Siberian/Central Asian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonhead View Post
    Once again...is [fill in th blank] white? No. WAS [fill in the blank white]? Yes. Excluding just south china and SW africa and horn of africa.
    They were never white. For fuck sake, stop including every race that looks non-Mongoloid as white. Because you might as well claim some albino Dravidian, polynesians as white as well.

    Because there are albino Indians that look more whiter than Scandinavians



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    Quote Originally Posted by ButlerKing View Post
    It must also be mentioned modern that Ainu are from 20- 80% Jomon and 20-80% Yayoi

    Many Ainu are basically indistinguishable from Okinawans and Japanese.
    Ainu are predominantly Jomon (they are very similar to the Jomon people in terms of haplogroups and Autosomal DNA).
    They look Mongoloid because the Jomon people were predominantly mongoloid (and not Caucasoid or other).

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