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But I dont see the relevance. So did Greeks change their names to sound like Lithuanians or something? Or are you just enjoying your typical pasttime of half-assed Greek-bashing?
Most Greeks, like most Europeans in general didnt have surnames until the modern era. Here are a few families that did record a surname before the Modern Era however:
Laskaris
Palaiologos
Dukas
Monomachos
Akritas
Agryos
Xristos
Etc.
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I actually thought that Greek musician Vangelis was Lithuanian for several years until I finally saw a photo of him and realized that he isn't. You know why? Because that's a perfectly Lithuanian surname. Apparently, it's perfectly Greek too...
Here's some of the members of Greek parliament (past and present) who could pass as Lithuanians without any alterations done to their surnames: Mantas, Valinakis, Skondra, Skrekas, Tagaras, Virvidakis, Vagionas, Verelis, Nasiokas, Katrinis, Melas, Stratakis, Karanikas, Geitonas...
Show that list to any Lithuanian and he'll think that's a list of Lithuanian people but those are genuine Greeks!
Saying that the similarity between Lithuanian and Greek surnames comes only from having S at the end is simply ignorant. The similarity doesn't just come from a fact that the whole endings -as, -is, -a are common in both countries.
The whole suffixes are often the same too and sometimes even the stems. I'll list some similar examples from the members of parliaments and famous people, these ends are common for many surnames in both LT & GR:
-giris
Greek Argiris, Lithuanian Margiris
-donis
Greek Aidonis, Lithuanian Rudonis
-ronis
Greek Tsironis, Lithuanian Mazuronis
-akis
Greek Deiktakis, Lithuanian Baltakis
-uras/-ūras
Greek Bouras, Lithuanian Būras
-raitis
Greek Moraitis, Lithuanian Giedraitis
Then there's these lookalikes:
Greek Salmas, Lithuanian Šalmas
Greek Zaroulia, Lithuania Žūraulia
Greek Ziogas, Lithuanian Žiogas
Greek Stamatis, Lithuanian Stamaitis
Greek Kikilias, Lithuanian Kirkilas
Greek Zagoritis, Lithuanian Žagarytis
Lithuanians can have -as in both first and last names. In fact, it's the most popular ending for male last names.Originally Posted by justme
What makes you think it's more common in East Lithuania? Survila, Blinda, Alseika, Daukša, Švėgžda, Pabrėža, Riauba were Samogitians.
BTW the endings are rarely -ė too, e.g.: Galaunė, Lapė...
Are all of these members of Estonian Parliament just Russians? Their surnames sound like they could pass in Lithuania, some with small alterations:
- Kaja Kallas (Kalas)
- Kalev Kotkas
- Väino Linde (Lindė)
- Inara Luigas
- Liisa-Ly Pakosta
- Jüri Ratas
- Siim Kabrits (Kabrytis)
Because if those are genuine Estonian surnames, a fair share of Lithuanian surnames should not sound foreign to you either.
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Actually, they do look similar but the only one I'd mistake for Greek would be Margiris, which looks like the Greek word for " cook". " Buras sort of looks Greek.Greek Argiris, Lithuanian Margiris
-donis
Greek Aidonis, Lithuanian Rudonis
-ronis
Greek Tsironis, Lithuanian Mazuronis
-akis
Greek Deiktakis, Lithuanian Baltakis
-uras/-ūras
Greek Bouras, Lithuanian Būras
-raitis
Greek Moraitis, Lithuanian Giedraitis
Some of the others look somewhat alike. I think some of them come from Slav toponyms, like Zagoritis ( Za-gura- between mountain ) and Ziogas ( mountain range) and zaroulia have similar etymologies.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantine_Lascaris
Constantine Lascaris (Greek: Κωνσταντῖνος Λάσκαρις; 1434 – 15 August 1501) was a Greek scholar and grammarian, one of the promoters of the revival of Greek learning in the Italian peninsula, born at Constantinople.
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Lascaris died at Messina.
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Greek endings have to do with the place they are from. -opoulos is from Pelloponese.
-akis from Greete, -atos from Kephallonia, -ellis from Lesbos, -oudas from Chalkidike, -idis from Pontus, etc, etc...
There are Greek names ending in -as. Andreas, Kosmas, Nikolas, etc.
In general, I don't confuse Greek with Lithouanian because Greek names have a meaning in Greek 9 out of 10 times. If a Lithouanian surname makes sense in Greek though....
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What? Just because of the s ending? Ratas means wheel, kallas means shore, kotkas means eagle. They're not "names", they're more like items, nature objects and animals. We don't have any "s" or "as" endings. You're just making up things and creating connections that just don't exist.
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