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    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Haired View Post
    No their from lowlands of Scotland. They emigrated to ulster Ireland in the early 1600's.
    Yes, but they mixed with the other Northern Irish people, and hence are also Northern Irish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanley View Post
    A lot of Americans with Scots-Irish ancestry today do, but I doubt the real ones in the colonial days felt they were truly ethnic Irish. They knew who they were, it's some of their ignorant modern descendants who wrongly feel like they have shamrocks growing out of their skin.
    Their modern descendants know they originally came form Scotland. and they don't really care anyways they dont try to prove their irish. My great grandpa told grandpa and brother our family was originally Irish with English and Scottish. When he said Irish my grandpa knew he meant Scotch Irish and my great grandpa said their originally from Scotland but people call them Irish. But my great grandma was 100% German and my grandma was Norwegian, German, with some English then my mom's grandpa was 50% Cornish with some English and other types of UK then his grandma was 100% German. Basically a whole lot of Germans came in the 1800's and wiped out the UK blood in America. I notice a trend on bothsides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Yes, but they mixed with the other Northern Irish people, and hence are also Northern Irish.
    U have to show real evidence not just assumption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Yes, but they mixed with the other Northern Irish people, and hence are also Northern Irish.
    From the 19th century on, a more United Protestant front, became culture. Before then, the Presbyterians had Republican tendencies away from the Anglicans. Republican movement started to diverge away, to only mean Catholic republicans..

    Scots-Irish Presbyterians moved to America with more democratic radical Republican tendencies. That could have stuck in the US, & ended in Ireland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonhead View Post
    Yeah they are a small group but they are a big part of the most elite soldiers the USA has. If the celts in general were the warrior elite they were the elite of the elite.
    The ancient Celts were not a unifed group of people it is really complicated. Insular Celts from Britain and Ireland are just one group. French are mainly descended almost 100% from the Gauls the most known Celts. Most of Spain and Portugal was Celtic before the Roman empire same with most of Germany. It is complicated there is a very big trace of blood form the proto Germanic Italo Celtic speakers who conquered west Europe starting 5,000ybp Germanic Italo Celts. And overall it seems Irish and still full just about full blooded Insular Celts have the the most and are mainly descended from the proto Germanic Italo Celtic speakers.

    Its true that Celts like the Gauls were really good fighters and known for it. But their warrior culture is not connected with any cultures in Europe today it is pretty much completely extinct and has been for about 2,000 years. Over 2,000 years a ton a ton of things change. Rome is what triggered a chain of effects in Europe that completely changed the culture of everyone. So the culture of Scotch Irish is more connected to traditional culture developed in Scotland and England starting in the middle ages. I wouldnt be suprised that there are alot of Scotch Irish people who are elites in the US military because i see alot of them in history. and the Scotch Irish obviously care alot about military since they were a small minority but took up 40% of the military during the revolutionary war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graham View Post
    From the 19th century on, a more United Protestant front, became culture. Before then, the Presbyterians had Republican tendencies away from the Anglicans. Republican movement started to diverge away, to only mean Catholic republicans..

    Scots-Irish Presbyterians moved to America with more democratic radical Republican tendencies. That could have stuck in the US, & ended in Ireland.
    what type of republican and democrat are u talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Haired View Post
    What type of republican and democrat are you talking about.
    A Republican is someone who is against the Monarchy, I don't understand what you mean by what type. A democratic, means more rites for the working man.(Scots-Irish under penal laws in Ireland). A vote, some land, Liberty etc..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Haired View Post
    U have to show real evidence not just assumption.
    What? I hope you're not serious.
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    I have Ulster Scots ancestry. Distantly related to Graham in Scotchland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    What? I hope you're not serious.
    You could google wikipedia for north ireland to clear up all your confusion on the irish. Ulster Scots are loyalists and protestant and some of them are extreme about it even today. I'm sure some of them have mixed in over time but not as freely as you seem to think.

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