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    Quote Originally Posted by Acquisitor View Post
    that applies to most people in the world.

    only very very very few people I ever met were not so self centered or greedy.

    and I dont give a fuck about Judaism which I see as he biggest threat for Israel
    I see how much you care with your choice of words.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    I agree. Jesus was a good and wise man. He was a humanist and a socialist. I really appreciate his wisdom, still.
    I have an ambivalence about jesus. That's if he really existed though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hrulj View Post
    I see how much you care with your choice of words.
    I'm glad that you see that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noraxen View Post
    I have an ambivalence about jesus. That's if he really existed though.
    Well you probably haven't read the Bible yet, so I can understand.
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    Honestly, I think they have their place in our society. Some people are replacing religions with the most insane conspiracy theories about reptilians, hollow earth and other absurdities. I'd rather have religions that preach for good values to keep such people busy and give them a chance to form social bonds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Well you probably haven't read the Bible yet, so I can understand.
    I have, I was protestant for a very long time, I haven't read the much of the old testament but I've definitely read a lot of the new testament.

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    Thomas Paine puts it really well

    "Jesus Christ wrote no account of himself, of his birth, parentage, or anything else. Not a line of what is called the New Testament is of his writing. The history of him is altogether the work of other people; and as to the account given of his resurrection and ascension, it was the necessary counterpart to the story of his birth. His historians, having brought him into the world in a supernatural manner, were obliged to take him out again in the same manner, or the first part of the story must have fallen to the ground.

    The wretched contrivance with which this latter part is told, exceeds everything that went before it. The first part, that of the miraculous conception, was not a thing that admitted of publicity; and therefore the tellers of this part of the story had this advantage, that though they might not be credited, they could not be detected. They could not be expected to prove it, because it was not one of those things that admitted of proof, and it was impossible that the person of whom it was told could prove it himself.

    But the resurrection of a dead person from the grave, and his ascension through the air, is a thing very different, as to the evidence it admits of, to the invisible conception of a child in the womb. The resurrection and ascension, supposing them to have taken place, admitted of public and ocular demonstration, like that of the ascension of a balloon, or the sun at noon day, to all Jerusalem at least. A thing which everybody is required to believe, requires that the proof and evidence of it should be equal to all, and universal; and as the public visibility of this last related act was the only evidence that could give sanction to the former part, the whole of it falls to the ground, because that evidence never was given. Instead of this, a small number of persons, not more than eight or nine, are introduced as proxies for the whole world, to say they saw it, and all the rest of the world are called upon to believe it. But it appears that Thomas did not believe the resurrection; and, as they say, would not believe without having ocular and manual demonstration himself. So neither will I; and the reason is equally as good for me, and for every other person, as for Thomas."

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    Change the education system, teach critical thinking and skepticism right from the start so that the children are intellectually well-equipped to see through bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Education education education. Science science science. Knowledge dispels myths.
    the only on topic answer so far.

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    The mainstream beliefs are secularism, human rightism, consumerism and republicanism.

    As Vincent Peillon said, Laicism is the new religion of the world.

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